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[deleted] t1_j16o474 wrote

They wanted to beat the European lawsuits to the punch. The countries included in this rollout are Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Spain, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.

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SoftwarePatient5050 t1_j16xgvr wrote

Cool, but also pretty dumb considering that they were the ones who made their hardware so damned difficult to work on to begin with.

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bleaucheaunx t1_j16y017 wrote

Does this mean I can finally add RAM to my Mac Studio?!

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Upper_Decision_5959 t1_j17axuv wrote

I wonder if they will ever support older devices like iPhone X's or iPads. These older devices needs parts like Batteries/Screens because their most likely to be degraded or broken as time passes out of warranty. I want to replace my iPad Pro display replaced since it's cracked and battery replaced, but god damn the price of a screen replacement at Apple costs as much as a new iPad.

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hippymndy t1_j17bro4 wrote

Replying to Upper_Decision_5959 (#1,004,484)

try asking around to get an ipod touch screen replaced. most places kept replying back “ipad” even after being very clear it was a POD not PAD. i only bought the damn thing two maybe three years ago! all but one small shop wanted close to $100 to replace it. insane.

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NinjaSnail42 t1_j17d52p wrote

These parts are priced insane…. $450 for a 1TB storage module? Shit, just the enclosure + the bottom is almost the price of a Mac mini. What a joke.

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Gunfreak2217 t1_j17dr53 wrote

Replying to Reddit-username_here (#1,001,455)

But this shit program is horrible. Save like 10% of the cash to do it yourself in comparison to the Apple store. This isn’t a win, it’s a slimey way for them to just fake repair offerings.

10% savings, like 8 hours of your day with full accountability of damage if you fail in anyway…

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Vanman04 t1_j17m2hl wrote

LOL good luck plebs.

Kit or no kit they mode those things a pain in the ass to work on.

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Falco9805 t1_j17o5ox wrote

Can I “repair” my m1 Mac mini with a larger ssd then?

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Wirfaway t1_j17q0il wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,005,333)

Most repair professionals lobbying for right to repair actually acknowledge that and are totally fine with Apple making things more complex as a trade off for a sleeker device. Microsoldering is a skill people pay good money for. Funny enough, Apple is making things a bit easier to repair now (e.g. removal tape on laptop batteries) as it got even too hard for them to handle repairs themselves.

What third party repair professionals aren’t okay with is Apple purposely not providing board schematics, making deals with chip manufacturers to ensure that nobody can buy certain chips on the boards for repairs, and serializing parts ensuring certain things can never be replaced properly without Apple’s servers blessing it (e.g. screens, batteries, etc).

The idea is you should own your device you fully paid for and should have the right to fix it.

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Reddit-username_here t1_j17q4nv wrote

Replying to Gunfreak2217 (#1,004,691)

You do not have to participate in this, it's not a way for them to fake anything. I fucking hate Apple, I have never and will never own any of their products. But this is good. This means independent repair shops also have access to these parts. Which means it will be cheaper for the consumer to get something repaired, especially if they don't pay for the Apple care bullshit. Instead of being forced to buy an entirely new device, which was common before because people who didn't have Apple care would either be charged more than the cost of a new device, or be lied to that it couldn't be fixed.

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Wirfaway t1_j17qbnn wrote

Replying to Upper_Decision_5959 (#1,004,484)

I doubt it.

Apple is famous for not keeping extra inventory around and all the tooling for building parts for older devices is probably long gone/repurposed.

At best, you’ll probably only start seeing replacement parts for new devices moving forward.

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Wirfaway t1_j17qynq wrote

Replying to Reddit-username_here (#1,005,444)

If I understand correctly, it’s still not great for repair shops because the parts are expensive enough that you can’t really make any money and because you can only get the parts on demand (i.e. you can’t buy parts to just have on hand). That and the pain in the ass time wasting process you have to go through to pair the serialized parts through an Apple specialist once the repair is done.

This is only really targeting individuals who want to repair their own devices, but even then, it’s priced such that you’re usually better off just having Apple do it themselves.

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Nova17Delta t1_j17rwwp wrote

I think you mean expand back to desktops. The old G5 towers were practically begging to be user replaceable with their interior design.

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senseofphysics t1_j17wiuw wrote

Thank you so much Apple! 🙇🏻 Now make sure you don’t overwork your overseas workers in what is slavery with extra stops in order to fulfill your investors’ quota.

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Shoshke t1_j18hc5r wrote

Replying to masalion (#1,005,306)

In some instances yes, for example not using proprietary screws allowing for easier and less dangerous battery replacement.

In other not, like glueing the back panel or the general complexity of using multiple boards and delicate connectors and fine soldering.

The biggest gripe against apple though is they were fighting hard against independent repair shops.

I personally really like Lewis Rossman, he's probably the best know supporter of right to repair, but if you actually listen to his cricism it's ussualy very specific

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Remote_Cartoonist_27 t1_j1931xm wrote

Replying to Reddit-username_here (#1,001,455)

While it’s better than the nothing that was available before this repair program is extremely lacking and nothing to get excited about. I just look for the iPhones they only offer like 5 parts and they are all over priced. They also don’t sell the tools, only rent them out. Which is weird. And the 5 parts are even for common repairs.(other than the battery, but they don’t sell just a battery. If you want a genuine apple battery and are willing to over pay for it than you have to buy their “battery bundle”.

The parts are also still software locked as well. so if you replace your camera for example your face id won’t work until you contact CS and have them “pair” the new camera to your board.

They also don’t offer any parts on wholesale so it doesn’t help 3rd party repair at all, even if a shop could buy these overpriced parts and pull a profit they can buy, say 5 camera modules, they can only buy 1.

They also don’t have to continue it, especially not in the US where there are 0 consumer protection laws when it comes to repairability or program sustainability.

This isn’t a win, if anything it’s a step backwards because now apple can say “look we don’t need regulation we are already selling parts”

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EVOSexyBeast t1_j1952s5 wrote

Replying to Reddit-username_here (#1,005,444)

This is simply false. Independent repair shops can not access the repair tools or parts because in order to receive them you have to enter a serial number of the device you are using it for. The repair shops would have to rent them once the customer comes in and wait days for them to arrive just as the consumer would. And order the parts and wait days for them to come in. The repair shops still have to go through back allies to get a stock of repair parts to repair a customers phone in a timely manner.

Louis Rossmann is not a fan of the program. It changes nothing. It just helps confuse legislators into thinking that right to repair is a problem that will be solved by the free market.

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EVOSexyBeast t1_j197tqy wrote

Replying to Reddit-username_here (#1,009,410)

When I bought my iPhone from apple I, and most other people, are of the understanding that they own their device. At least the physical hardware of it. Apple disabling my hardware with their software, and trying to prevent me from brining my phone to a third party repair shop, who will actually repair the hardware on my phone because Apple simply won’t no matter how much I’d be willing to pay, is pathetic, anti-competitive, and should be illegal.

And it’s not stopping at Apple, see Tesla doing similar things with their cars. Once manufacturers start getting away with it they will all do it.

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TheyCallMeMrMaybe t1_j19hifk wrote

Replying to Gunfreak2217 (#1,004,691)

Not even. The DIY repair is actually MORE expensive than taking it to the Apple Store. This is all just a facade to get US lawmakers to immediately pause any talks on a Right to Repair bill, and to stall EU lawmakers.

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compaqdeskpro t1_j19lk0i wrote

Apple needs to start putting plastic frames around the batteries. Actually getting to the battery and unplugging it isn't very hard to do, but adhesive that requires yanking it so hard it starts a fire shouldn't be necessary. Is the modular but proprietary SSD replacable yet on the Mac Studio?

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offbeat_staircase54 t1_j19m6ug wrote

Apple has a strong reputation for providing high-quality customer service and support for its products, including its desktop computers such as the iMac and Mac Studio.

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[deleted] t1_j1a77tl wrote

I’m getting my moms old iMac and this is great news.

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delayed_tracing45 t1_j1u7735 wrote

"Apple offers a service called AppleCare+ that essentially makes most of those repairs for free, but device owners who haven't paid for that service can still pay for repairs"

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