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matmortel t1_izg6vgu wrote
Currently replying to you in a z fold. For me it's a great phone, I watch YouTube and almost all of my streaming shows on my phone and the big screen definitely is nice to have. The crease was something I noticed at first but over time I kinda forgot about it. Plus the folding part never comes loose which is surprising.
I think this phone is good if you're planning on using the big screen a lot, otherwise it might not be for you. It's pretty bulky in your pocket and the battery life is average at best. The folding screen is not perfect, not all apps are properly optimized for it, but it work surprisingly well for tech that's relatively early in its development.
BloodChasm t1_izhslbz wrote
I got it because normal smartphones are too long and super uncomfortable in pockets. The z flip 4 is sooo much better. I'm not afraid to sit down and worry about my phone bending in my pocket.
3dforlife t1_izoundr wrote
When I used an iPhone 4 it was uncomfortable to keep it in my pants pockets (not to mention it left a super visible mark).
This to say that even when the phones were small it was not ideal to put them in a pocket. For many years now I use a man's purse; it is perfect to transport the phone, wallet and keys.
BloodChasm t1_izp9qsu wrote
Interesting. Aren't you afraid you're going to misplace or leave it somewhere by accident?
I have the luxury of working from home, so I always wear sweatpants with zipper pockets. It has the benefit of extra security and huge pockets for comfort and I don't think I could ever go back to jeans or any other type of pants.
3dforlife t1_izpfjn0 wrote
No, I'm already used to it. Furthermore, I put the phone in an inner pocket, and the outer pocket closes with a zip, so it's well secure.
Etarder t1_izg8bqp wrote
I personally went with the Microsoft Surface Duo 2. Microsoft took a different approach to the folding phone model and the Duo 2 is bananas. My big reservation with the folding phones is how delicate the inside screen can be and Microsoft solved that with their approach. Now that being said cases are very few and far between for the Duo 2 because of its unique design so it has other vulnerability considerations. Over all I've been blown away by the Duo 2 and I'll be grabbing a Duo 3 upon release.
AllhandsOnHarry t1_izg86dp wrote
I have a z fold 4 and love it. Couldnt go back go a standard phone now.
3dforlife t1_izouswj wrote
If you were forced you could.
SoftwarePatient5050 t1_izh4100 wrote
I got one a couple of weeks ago. Figured I'd give it a try since we're up to the 4th generation now. I thought I'd hate the folding screen because of the crease, but I really don't notice it.
[deleted] t1_izhaszg wrote
We're already 4 generations deep, stop it.
SpecialNose9325 t1_izj38ae wrote
I was completely convinced that I could make a ZFlip4 work and went far enough to save up money for it and do my research. But had to stop myself because of two options you HAVE to consider before buying it.
- Get insurance on the phone and pay a about 1/3 the phones price for it.
- Not get insurance but be ready to cough up 2/3rd the phones price when it breaks.
My current phone is a Note10 I got for $750 right after launch and cumilatively spent about $80 over 3 years on Cases and Screen Protectors. I somehow dont have the confidence that the ZFlip4 will be that maintenance free.
zyzzrustleburger t1_j1ttpm7 wrote
My friend got one and low and behold the screen came away at the centre and is out of warranty. It's a lot of money to spend on something that kind of obviously will have a weak point. Was pretty cool though to begin with.
-Aone t1_izg03le wrote
My hope is that one day we will get a Pixel Flip phone. Making the display bigger than tablet doesn't really have a lot of convenience, but making the phone smaller and flip it to regular size, i'd buy that on the spot
SvenTropics t1_izg4e4r wrote
That already exists. The Galaxy Z flip 4 is basically a normal sized phone that you can fold in half.
-Aone t1_izg6x2y wrote
yep, thats why I want Google to make one. Samsung's bloatware is why I will never get a Samsung phone. I love Pixel's stock Android and its hard to go back to anything else after
SpecialNose9325 t1_izj3y4d wrote
Samsungs bloatware is on the phone, but its barely even bloatware anymore at this point. Google revamps and abandons apps every couple of years, while Samsung stock apps tend to be consistent and reliable. Everyone hates on Bixby, but nobody talks about how Bixby Routines is more powerful and user friendly than any Google Home automation.
Just as an example, Samsung Calendar follows OneUI app design principles, syncs with Google Calendars, and uses the Samsung System UI for Reminders. Samsung Clock syncs alarms across devices, and uses the same System UI for Alarms.
In my experience with Nexus and Pixel phones in the past, its far more inconsistent.
g-nice4liief t1_izi4pr2 wrote
With ADB app control you can delete any app you want from any android phone.
One UI + ADB App Control gives you a phone with more powerful hardware, and software with less bugs/crashes. I will never get over the fact the pixels will never replace the nexus line. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus was the pinnacle of Nexus phones (imho).
I won't buy another Google phone again sadly. By the time any manufacturer will release their foldable phone In the western market, Samsung already has a 5th or 6th generation foldable while other manufacturers will have to play catch up.
Babou13 t1_j02yrri wrote
The 6P was the best nexus phone and had the best case (fabric) that google had ever released. Quality phone that looked nice and had great software. The Galaxy Nexus still felt like a cheap Samsung phone..wish there could've been a Nexus phone based on the HTC One M8.
SvenTropics t1_izghdin wrote
I mean I've owned the pixel 2, 3, 5, and now the 7. I also owned the nexus 1 and 5 before that.
I've owned the Samsung Galaxy S4 active and s7 active as well as the original Samsung Galaxy (1).
I agree, I much prefer a Google phone mostly because they don't have any of the bloatware on there.
T3k_Junkie t1_izg4s6o wrote
With crappy cameras and Samsung bloat. Neither of which we want. 😎
12_nick_12 t1_izg8fwn wrote
I can't wait either. If I want to power thru something I go on my computer with 3 monitors.
Sotyka94 t1_izg9ib7 wrote
Get a good ~400$ midrange phone, slap a folding screen on it, and sell it for like ~600$.
This trend is not gonna catch up if the entry point is 1500$
[deleted] t1_iziti9d wrote
Yeah, haven't seen a lot of people using folding phone's just because the price is too high.
It's more practical and all, but it's just so damn expensive the price just doesn't make it worth it. I can buy one, but I don't find the price worth it I could never justify my self buying a phone over 1000$. Neither do I need the biggest greatest specs like the newest processor, 8+ GB ram, 512+ GB of space on a phone, what do you even need all that for, what do you do on your phone??
But that's just my view, I'm sure others might actually want those specs.
I'd love to see a budget folding phone!
3d_extra t1_izj24oz wrote
The hinge design is quite complex in these foldable phones. A regular slab design is much cheaper to build.
SpecialNose9325 t1_izj49m7 wrote
But the Modern Samsung foldable is $1000, which is the same price as the S22 or iPhone14. Where is the price disparity ? It will take a while for foldables to get to the $600 price range simply because of manufacturing challenges and tooling. Tooling prices go down with scale.
Sotyka94 t1_izj4nlw wrote
1000$ where? Lowest I seen is 1500
SpecialNose9325 t1_izowzj8 wrote
At samsung.com
The ZFlip 3 and 4 both launched at $999 and have dropped in price since.
Sotyka94 t1_izp6jb3 wrote
That's the flip. That's a completely different story than a fold. We talk about the fold, and it's much more.
With fold you have a standard phone that you can open up to a tablet if needed. With he flip you have a 1k$ cube that is not really functional and you can open it up to a normal phone. The flip is stupid, the fold is something I really like.
SpecialNose9325 t1_izsgu22 wrote
You are entitled to your opinion, but saying something is stupid because you don't care for it is a slippery slope. I don't know or care for your mom. I'm not gonna use that as a reason to say your mom is stupid.
Sotyka94 t1_iztn2b8 wrote
It's stupid because the fold get's a useful item (smartphone), and makes it multiuse (smartphone + tablet in one device), adding to it's use cases.
The flip takes an useful item (smartphone) and adds unnecessary complexity and price without adding any functionality, basically subtracting from it's usefulness without adding any real value to it.
SpecialNose9325 t1_iztoco2 wrote
Once again. The usefulness of a smartphone to a person is subjective. I don't see the appeal in having a substantially larger device in my pocket and lose one hand usability on a device that doesn't exactly do that much more than a regular smartphone. The advantages of having a 7.6inch inner screen are not substantial enough to me. Meanwhile, a phone that folds in half makes carrying it around easier and adds a notification display that prevents you from getting easily sucked into an app while checking notifications.
The sales numbers also seem to prove my point. The ZFlip adoption rate is much higher than the ZFold, and more importantly it is seen as a viable option to non Tech-enthusiasts. They place it right next to the S22 at the store and it's pretty clear that people are choosing it more often than the ZFold.
Sirisian t1_izgr0l4 wrote
We're in a weird place between phones and mixed reality headsets. Phone companies be like.
Already have one friend getting one of these day one irrespective of the price.
cranktheguy t1_izjbbu0 wrote
I really think you're overestimating people's tolerance for wearing something on their head, and I say that as someone who wears glasses daily.
2001zhaozhao t1_izn7uiw wrote
Why the heck are these phones so wide.
For me it's quick to touch type on my z fold 2 when unfolded. But with the width of these new folding phones it'd be like typing on a tablet, hard to reach the keys in the middle
lagerea t1_izsv091 wrote
What I learned from the M$ Duo and Duo 2 was that having the camera beveled out is a huge mistake, it will never sit flat, it will always catch on your pocket, it gets scratched easily, the sense of savings space just doesn't exist I'd rather they use the camera girth for larger battery because 3 screens fucking sucks that juice.
OtherUnameInShop t1_izhruja wrote
Go ahead and hand google your entire life, dummies.
SLCW718 t1_izg2mq0 wrote
I still don't trust these folding screens. I'm going to wait a few more generations before I consider one. I was just phone shopping, and looked at the Samsung Z Fold. It's nice, but I ultimately went with the S22 Ultra. Anyone else have experience with a folding screen?