Contortionietzsche t1_iwg1263 wrote
Reply to comment by wsippel in AMD Now Powers 101 of the World's Fastest Supercomputers by Avieshek
21,000 kilowatts of power. That's a lot, right? I read a story recently about a company that bought a Sun Enterprise 10000 server and an executive shut it down when they got the electricity bill.
wsippel t1_iwg3vqe wrote
It's a lot, but the performance per watt is actually really good, and that's what matters. It's the sixth most energy efficient supercomputer: https://www.top500.org/lists/green500/2022/11/
nexus1011 t1_iwg1krr wrote
Look at the 2nd one on the list.
29,000 almost 30k KW of power!
Zeraleen t1_iwg64o3 wrote
30k kW, that is almost 30MW. wow!
Gnash_ t1_iwgf457 wrote
My Factorio factory only consumes 9 MW and I had to build 3 nuclear reactors, just to keep the power up at night. That’s one big supercomputer
calvin4224 t1_iwgfzlw wrote
irl a nuclear Generator has around 1 GW (1000MW). But 30MW is still about 6 Land based Wind turbines running at full load. It's a lot!
Ok-disaster2022 t1_iwid396 wrote
Physics wise you can run a GW reactor at 30 W and it will essentially last forever from a fuel standpoint, just the turbines and such have to re engineered to that lower output.
But there are smaller reactors. I believe for example the Ford class supercarriers run on 4x250w reactors.
calvin4224 t1_iwror1m wrote
I don't think that's how nuclear fission works.
Also, 4x250 Watts will run your kettle but not a ship :P
PhantomTroupe-2 t1_iwgjgwp wrote
So the guy above a lying little shit or?
Gnash_ t1_iwgk22o wrote
Factorio is a video game, did you really think I went out and built 3 reactors all by myself
also was the uncalled for insult really necessary?
PhantomTroupe-2 t1_iwgo5sw wrote
Yeah I think it was
Alexb2143211 t1_iwgpnuv wrote
Damn, hope you become a better person
PhantomTroupe-2 t1_iwgq52t wrote
Well, you can always cry I guess
depressedbee t1_iwgfvjf wrote
Yea maybe, but can it run Crysis?
MattLogi t1_iwga7wo wrote
What’s it power draw? Isn’t something like 30000 kWh only like $3000 a month? Which sure isn’t cheap but if you’re buying these super computers, I feel like $3000 is a drop in the bucket for them
Edit: yup, made a huge mistake in calculation. Much much larger number
Catlover419-20 t1_iwgfacd wrote
Nono, that means 30000kWh is for 1h of operation. For one month of 24/7 at 30 days you‘d need 21.600.000 kWh or 21.600 mWh, or 2.741.040€ at 12,69ct/kWh. So $2.75M if Im correct
MattLogi t1_iwguqiu wrote
Yeah I messed up! I was think W as I do the calculation a lot with my computers at home so I always divide by 1000 to get kWh. Like you said this is 30000kWh! Oof yeah that’s a big bill.
Contortionietzsche t1_iwgark3 wrote
True. Frontier is for the US department of energy right? The company that bought the E10K probably was not. AFAIK the E10K requires a 100 amp power line and back in those days (late 90’s) I don’t think performance per watt was a thing they worried about, could be wrong though.
Dodgy_Past t1_iwgrgw5 wrote
I was selling sun servers back then and customers never considered power consumption.
Diabotek t1_iwgf8be wrote
Lol, not even close. 30,000 kW * 720 hours * kW price.
MattLogi t1_iwguf3a wrote
Oooo yeah I did a major mistake in calculation. I’m so used to calculating W with home computers and dividing by 1000 to get my KWH…this is 30000KwH! Ooooof! Yeah that’s a huge bill. Makes a lot more sense now lol
Diabotek t1_iwh5jxx wrote
Yeah 30000kW is an insanely massive number. The amount of power required to run that for an hour, could power my stack for 7 years.
The-Protomolecule t1_iwgismm wrote
It’s easy to power when you’re oak ridge and have your own nuclear power plant.
LaconicLacedaemonian t1_iwgsooq wrote
Data centers are generally located specifically where they can get cheap power.
chillinwithmypizza t1_iwgftvr wrote
Wouldn’t they lease it though 🤔 Idk any company that outright buys a server
Contortionietzsche t1_iwgiihr wrote
You’re probably right.
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