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found_a_thing t1_iw9kyi7 wrote
WebOS is terrible. Never again.
NakiCoTony t1_iw9ml0e wrote
Does LG still rolls with 10/100 Lan in their oleds?
Yupp... Wifi 6 paired with a 10/100 Lan on a 2022 TV.
From the c2's manual:
Network Setting Warnings Use standard LAN cable (connect to Cat7 or higher with RJ45 connector, 10 Base-T, or 100 Base TX LAN port).
//Edit: I myself also use a USB to Lan but on my old oled with usb2, still LG why u need that 25cent saved instead of putting in a gigabit Lan...?!
Juice805 t1_iw9mnps wrote
Still better than Samsung’s.
MatthewCrawley t1_iw9ogk8 wrote
Lol I have to deal with both of these at my parents and my in-laws house. Sure their TVs are nicer but at least the one I got cheap on Amazon has a great OS and I can download every app lol
JackNewton1 t1_iw9ozns wrote
Who uses the OS that comes with the TV? Buehler..Buehler?
Jesus no. Roku, Apple (waay too pricey, but nice), anything but the native, and you have your TV. OLED is nice. So’s QLED.
Juice805 t1_iw9q3b2 wrote
100% and if you ever feel the experience is starting to show it’s age or just not what you want anymore? It’s a fraction of the price to upgrade rather than replacing the likely still good panel.
And if you do upgrade the panel you have the same familiar experience already set up the way you like it.
sebmojo99 t1_iw9tl4k wrote
I have never been annoyed by the LG interface - what didn't you like about it?
gmaclean t1_iw9uzeo wrote
The only “good” thing is the C2 at least has USB 3.0, so you can use an inexpensive USB to Ethernet adaptor for gbps lan speeds. My CX has USB 2.0 and gets a max of approximately 300 mbps… which to be fair is more than enough, but silly I need to do it all
gmaclean t1_iw9vpcm wrote
HDTVTest to me is the authoritative knowledge for higher end TVs and does extensive testing. He has probably a dozen videos on his channel regarding this tv, best settings for it etc. This is an early one, but point remains. The verge is terrible at reviewing products.
thenerdal t1_iw9w6s1 wrote
I do. I don't see the downside. We have a new TV. I can cast to it since it's built in.
The old smart TV lasted longer than the chromecast and fire TV box
nokinship t1_iw9wewo wrote
whistles nervously
JohnSpartans t1_iwa1ipu wrote
The 77 is 1400... Where?
thedm96 t1_iwa1yhh wrote
Use NextDNS and apply a block list.
PSEOL t1_iwa1ync wrote
My firesticks have barely lasted 2 years before going to shit. They literally are plugged in and don’t ever move. They are just THAT poorly built.
PSEOL t1_iwa25d3 wrote
What do you think your phone is doing, your internet provider is doing, your web browser is doing?
TV OS is a weird line to draw…
lightningsnail t1_iwa2e3k wrote
I do. Why would I give a third party money just for less functionality?
Now if someone made high quality "dumb" tvs. Then yes. Unfortunatley monitors don't get that big.
Abba_Fiskbullar t1_iwa2f10 wrote
I absolutely love my C1, and I've had two family members buy OLEDs after seeing mine.
Robert315 t1_iwa2foa wrote
Okay, my bad. Updated my post. I misread this below, however at $2500 w/ the $175 Visa gift card, 4 year warranty, by an authorized seller, it’s a good price.
Robert315 t1_iwa2od1 wrote
tiduz1492 t1_iwa38cv wrote
I want my phone to have a web browser, social media, texting, etc..
I want my TV to display an image from my input source. I'd really like to see less smart TVs and more dumb TVs.
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JackNewton1 t1_iwa4cwc wrote
Then you just have to deal with it I guess. Personally, whatever TV in the size I’m wanting at the right price that has decent reviews is fine.
stout936 t1_iwa4vfn wrote
I daily drive a C1 as my computer monitor. I really like it for my purposes
1 word of warning about the C2: My Life In Gaming thoroughly tested one as a retro gaming display (through scalers, of course), and it arbitrarily added a ton of input lag if the picture mode was set to 4:3. Maybe this has been fixed with updates, but it was definitely a problem at launch.
ComCypher t1_iwa8wm5 wrote
OLED is far superior to anything else out there right now but burn-in continues to be a concern. My next TV (probably in a few years) will hopefully be a Micro LED which has all of the advantages of OLED and none of the downsides.
crixusin t1_iwa9972 wrote
I think the consensus at the moment is that quantum dot oled is better, but basically I distinguishable right now and not worth the price difference.
Eswyft t1_iwab8bv wrote
Roku comes with plenty of tvs.
gladamirflint t1_iwabjco wrote
I do, because I like the magic remote function with LG’s webOS. Yes it’s a small thing but I like how it glides around.
gladamirflint t1_iwabq48 wrote
Not if you don’t set it up and agree to it.
splifingate t1_iwac8ug wrote
Pi-hole takes care of that :)
DropShadow13 t1_iwacglw wrote
How do they compare to RTings?
imagineerbytrade t1_iwaekf3 wrote
I use a nvidia shield pro. I also have a hue play box so I needed an external media player.
Elvaanaomori t1_iwafgwf wrote
Hol’up, you can hook it up like this for network?
suid t1_iwag0b7 wrote
You can get excellent "dumb" (i.e. do what I say) monitors, but for a lot more. Like if you want a 55" 4K gaming monitor, you're looking at paying maybe 3-4x what you pay for a smart TV.
Why? That data collection subsidizes your low cost. That's how they offer an excellent 55" 4K tv at a discounted cost of around $1000-1200.
gmaclean t1_iwagsxx wrote
Sure can! Various adapters maybe affect results, but he used a cable matters on these two tvs.
https://youtu.be/PIef8iRZhLE - this video is a year old, but premise is the same.
Something to keep in mind if you use home assistant with at least LG OLED TVs, using a USB adapter will not allow you to remotely turn on via LAN. Not huge, but something to keep in mind if you use that platform for smart devices.
gmaclean t1_iwah4mo wrote
I think both are good for what they offer. Rtings has a MUCH larger scope of devices, but you’ll typically get more intimate real world review on the devices he has.
Elvaanaomori t1_iwahder wrote
Right now it’s on wifi as it’s faster than cable…
HA, Homekit, even official LG app has trouble waking up the TV. Works about 50% of the time I’d say, no idea what’s the issue.
I’ll maybe go the apple tv route since it will be hdmi woken up
gmaclean t1_iwajv6g wrote
Yeah, I had a real PITA with wake on LAN with wifi too. The built in LAN was working for me, but was terrible with Plex rips due to that 90ish max speed
Elvaanaomori t1_iwak787 wrote
Yes, it's on wifi for that reason, can't watch a lot of things with that 100 lan...
barbarkbarkov t1_iwall49 wrote
They’re great at how to build a pc videos though
thenerdal t1_iwan0a1 wrote
That's actually how I found out my chromecast died lol.
We had a super old roku TV that was slow. It's the main reason why people here hate smart TVs, but it was already pretty old.
My family didn't mind the slowness but I did. So I bought a chromecast for them to use and they didn't use it. I thought it was because it wasn't like using a control.
Few years later I tried to switch them to a streaming box with a remote. The fire TV. They started using that but eventually went back to the slow TV OS.
Then one day the fire TV just stopped working so I got the chromecast back out and that wasn't working either.
I decided not to bother buying another streaming device and just deal with the slowness.
Thankfully mom finally bought a new TV. It's not because it was slow though. Our old one was pretty small for our living room and I kept telling her to get a bigger one.
Its a TCL Google TV and obviously much faster. I probably won't buy a streaming device ever again since TVs come with casting abilities and even though my old TV was slow at casting, I just browsed Reddit for the few seconds it took to load.
xxwetdogxx t1_iwanpi1 wrote
charleswj t1_iwarmtu wrote
Tell me more about this magic remote?
Omz-bomz t1_iwasz5n wrote
I'm thinking about getting the C1 or the C2 (as an upgrade to my old LG)
Having the C1, is there anything about the C2 you feel you are missing? the increased HDR nits and general light levels are what are interesting for me.
It's just twice the price, so feel I can't justify it over the c1
redline83 t1_iwatpvg wrote
RTings has become surprisingly bad. Their scoring is very questionable and inconsistent, especially on LCDs. Vincent at HDTVTest is the best there is.
TheMatt561 t1_iwatyop wrote
Have they fixed the awful ad filled app menu?
Say10sadvocate t1_iwauq9y wrote
I'm actually in the market for a new TV, this seems to tick most of the boxes, if only I can install Kodi onto webos like I did on my android TV...
fingerfight t1_iwauy83 wrote
Burn in is a problem if you do the same thing over and over again.
Like playing a game.
For movies and TV series burn-in is not a big concern.
Abba_Fiskbullar t1_iwav99h wrote
The C2 is pretty similar in performance but actually loses a few features like black frame insertion on 120hz content. If you buy a 55" or larger C1 that was made towards the end of 2021 or anytime in 2022 it's likely going to have the same EVO panel as the C2. The C2 will likely get software updates longer than the C1, but LG has been pretty good about updating their OLEDs for a few years so it might not matter. You can't go wrong with a C1. The only thing about the C2 that I'd prefer is the stand puts the TV a bit higher off the table, so you can put a sound bar or center channel in front of it more easily.
appmapper t1_iwavevz wrote
Cat7 lol. The 10/100 port is annoying but you can just get a cheapish usb NIC.
ComCypher t1_iwavyxi wrote
Agreed. The only stuff burned into my OLED TV right now are UIs from a couple video games. Fortunately I don't notice them unless there are solid colors being displayed.
Keptforgetting t1_iwaye8a wrote
Why not just get an OLED on the android tv or Google TV platform?
shepanator t1_iwb02lf wrote
It will probably be more than a few years before micro led is viable for consumer level products
Say10sadvocate t1_iwb0lla wrote
Yeah that's what I'm after. A 4k 120hz (for the ps5) oled on the Android platform...
... At a reasonable price. Lol
Keptforgetting t1_iwb1dzj wrote
Not sure where it's available but Sony brought back the 55A80J OLED from 2021 for black Friday this year and priced it at £999, might be available in other markets too
Omz-bomz t1_iwb26u6 wrote
I'm looking at the 77" for reference, and it will be wall mounted so the stand doesn't matter to me.
I'm only looking for the picture quality, and brightness.
Is the EVO panel marked on the products in some way (serial code or whatnot)
superseriousraider t1_iwb2amb wrote
I have a 5 year old LG oled that I have used extensively, (basically 100% of the covid years).
Burn in is not a problem.
Abba_Fiskbullar t1_iwb2hh6 wrote
There is https://youtu.be/u8mHS5eM57I
Every 77" is an EVO panel.
Nummerneun t1_iwb4dhb wrote
What about hanging next to a window ? Is it stell fine ?
jdmachogg t1_iwb8d1g wrote
Burn-in isn’t an issue on the newer OLEDs. Unless you leave some shitty news channel or a desktop running for literally 24hours a day 7 days a week.
Playing 6 hours of the same game every day doesn’t even come close to burn-in
sideburns2009 t1_iwb9zjc wrote
Sorry for your loss.
sideburns2009 t1_iwba1vp wrote
I’m 5 months in to my C2 (and my first OLED) and am still impressed with it. No issues thus far.
Adoiron07 t1_iwbagun wrote
I bought a c9. Without any warning at all, the tv started sparking and immediately shut off. The screen never came back on. After talking to two LG certified repair shops, neither of them had anything good to say about LG OLED, reporting numerous cases of the panel going out and having minimal support from LG to repair it. With the repair cost being extremely high they advised to just buy a new tv rather than pay to fix it. I called LG and they refused to extend the warranty to cover this cost. I love the C series but I just cannot risk buying another one when this one didn’t even make it to 3 years. I always powered it off when not in use, moved it only only once. Would not recommend.
Again I loved the tv. Best on the market as far as software and picture goes. But do I want to buy the c2 or c3 or switch to something else?
AlphusUltimus t1_iwbb61q wrote
Even then it has built in protection against burn in.
nicuramar t1_iwbenkq wrote
Right. There are two OLED technologies now, though. This one, “WOLED”, and the QD OLED from Samsung.
R_eloade_R t1_iwbfh2g wrote
Makes me wonder, what do you play and how often?
I have a Lg B9 from 3 to 4 years ago. It’s on every day and a play mostly games on it. Thousands of hours of Warzone, FIFA, Overwatch but still…. No burn in whatsoever when I do a burn in test. I do see the UI for just a little bit when switching games but that goes away in seconds
RoaringSilence t1_iwbgts3 wrote
Did you let the TV perform its pixel refresh cycle? All OLED need to do this after powering off, but still plugged in.
WhenPantsAttack t1_iwbim1m wrote
Modern sets from reputable brands have all but gotten rid of burn in. If you have logo detection on, it will find static pixels in the display and dim them so they won't burn in. So far it seems to work on static TV logos in the corner and UI's like video games.
Leo_Heart t1_iwbiuw0 wrote
Take it from someone who has a 4K 120hz with a ps5, nothing on the ps5 runs remotely close to 120 hz
nosferatWitcher t1_iwbj1ec wrote
I hate the magic remote pointer with a passion. I wish you could disable it.
MaximumShitcock t1_iwbjqu9 wrote
I recommend checking "My life in gaming" on Youtube who also made an extensive video about it. They compare it to the C1 model in a lot of detail.
Say10sadvocate t1_iwbl0yz wrote
Still, if I'm getting a new TV I want it to last as close to a decade as possible.
It's no good investing in something without 120hz which will want replacing when either game development improves or the ps6 runs at 120hz.
TheW83 t1_iwbls15 wrote
Same here. I bought a 65" Roku QLED and I thought it looked fantastic but it had 3 small dim spots on it that annoyed me and I couldn't un-see. I ended up returning it to Amazon but since I bought via a Prime Day deal there were issues with the refund. In the end, through some screwy customer service they ended up just refunding the price of the TV I paid and then gave me a gift card and credit for the difference in price with the expectation that I would buy the same TV again (it was like $350 more after the sale). But I was able to apply that $350 for the LG G1 55" and got that instead.
I was amazed at the picture quality difference. It's a stunning panel with absolutely no visible flaws.
lilrexy t1_iwbm0it wrote
When is Micro LED gonna be available for the consumer (price wise)?
rsmuss t1_iwbm9q1 wrote
Qled does not automatically imply it has the best brightness.. Qled can have shitty brightness especially if it’s edge led LCD
rsmuss t1_iwbmuh7 wrote
C2 has evo panel atleast in europe and its much lighter body.
NakiCoTony t1_iwbpa1a wrote
Premium standards on LG Oled tvs, they cant just tell you to plug in a pleb Cat 5e. :)
TiggyLongStockings t1_iwbpda2 wrote
Just get an Nvidia Shield to go with it
Sarcosmonaut t1_iwbrk0p wrote
Also very happy with my C1. Gonna keep this thing til the wheels fall off, or until home streaming starts making demands it can’t match (Dune was how I convinced my wife to upgrade. That scene with the worm rising on our old tv was just black. The C1 showed the deep detail like we’d seen in cinema)
viodox0259 t1_iwbrok6 wrote
pretty sad the dude had to carve the BUTTON out of the control lol.
CliffMainsSon t1_iwbu2rf wrote
I bought the 65” C1 immediately after they announced the C2 and had the price drop - my one and only regret was not springing for the 77”
Sir_Donkey_Punch t1_iwbu8n7 wrote
Not sure if this concerns you, but I’m pretty sure none of the LG OLED’s include DTS audio codecs anymore.
bladerunner2442 t1_iwbw1rp wrote
After my 65” Samsung bit the dust I got the C1. I’ll never buy anything else ever again.
bladerunner2442 t1_iwbw91n wrote
How do you do a burn in test?
R_eloade_R t1_iwbwetx wrote
Multiple tests on YouTube. It’s basicly a video that turns your screen into one color to identify burn in
sideburns2009 t1_iwbxv93 wrote
No concern of mine. I have DTS as I use an external audio system like a sane person and nothing passed through a tv or the built in speakers with a weak soundbar. I rely on a decent audio setup for sound, not the tv. I only care about a tv’s image.
Ragnar_Dragonfyre t1_iwbyzm6 wrote
Gamers tend to upgrade their TVs every generation so as to take advantage of new display features.
The burn in is a big problem.
bladerunner2442 t1_iwbz4k1 wrote
Ah, thank you. I’ll look for it.
ComCypher t1_iwc8vgy wrote
It sounds like you are describing ghosting which is normal. I have an LG E6 (2016) so it doesn't have the anti burn-in features that the newer ones have. I had it on 100% OLED brightness up until last year when I started noticing the degradation, so now I keep it at 80%. It now has burn-in showing BOTW's hearts in the top left, Splatoon 2's matchmaking screen on the right half, and some strange perfectly vertical bar down the center that I can't explain. I've played both a decent amount but not anything that would be considered abnormal or excessive.
Edit: I just remembered I had posted a picture of it on reddit last year:
The Splatoon matchmaking screen (and other Splatoony stuff) is burned into my OLED TV
ComCypher t1_iwc95y4 wrote
I'm being somewhat optimistic when I say a few years, but realistically it will probably be another decade.
SupVFace t1_iwcck8l wrote
I have the 77” and it’s a beast. I love this TV
SupVFace t1_iwcd4vc wrote
Depending on what you mean by consumer level, microLED isalready available, just not at pricing for us mere mortals.
Silver_Branch3034 t1_iwcd9c8 wrote
The C1 is the greatest tv I’ve ever owned, see no point in replacing it as long as it works.
SupVFace t1_iwcdp6a wrote
Micro LED, which is crazy expensive currently.
mecon320 t1_iwce1ei wrote
Switching from my old, cheaper 4k to the C1 was almost like switching from CRT to an HDTV for the first time.
nokinship t1_iwce4rf wrote
True, but no consumer is purchasing that unless you are in the top 1% literally.
Sir_Donkey_Punch t1_iwcf6oj wrote
Yea I’m in the same boat. External AVR + sound processing. Folks who rely on ARC from the set might care tho
sideburns2009 t1_iwcok3v wrote
Ah, the beginners you mean lol I’ve always paid more attention to surround and audio than picture quality in the tv room. Finally upgraded so they’re equivalent
gmaclean t1_iwcpmlb wrote
Haven’t for some time, I’ve got a CX and it is missing there too. It’s really fucking annoying using it with Plex. Having to transcode 4K streams kind of sucks for power usage on my server (no graphics card) and buffers time to time.
shepanator t1_iwddyc4 wrote
I guess there's no strict definition for what qualifies as 'consumer level', but I'd argue that what is basically 219" of commercial signage in somebody's living room doesn't count lmao
Adoiron07 t1_iwhan6v wrote
Yes pixel refresh was on
FlaviusStilicho t1_iwkfru5 wrote
Don’t use their smart functions, Get a dedicated box
FlaviusStilicho t1_iwkftl1 wrote
I got a 77” Kind of wish I had an 82” lol
rosesandtherest t1_iwkh3y0 wrote
And site redesigns
christoskal t1_iwph1p4 wrote
It's worth it to point out that WebOS has many versions that are considerably different, even on recent tvs.
The WebOS on my GX looks and acts completely differently from the WebOS on my C2 for example. Perhaps you have tried a similarly old, or older, version?
joombaga t1_iwq4iky wrote
I've had a c1 for a few years and have no burn in at all. Now I'm using a c2 as a monitor for programming ~8 hours per day. It's only been 3 months, but no issues so far, with logo detection on low. There's another feature that slightly moves every pixel, but that causes the edges of the screen to get chopped off which is annoying so I disabled it.
joombaga t1_iwq5er7 wrote
I put the stock remote in a drawer and bought a universal for that reason. The pointer seems a lot harder to trigger accidentally on the c2. I'm not sure if that was a software change or a hardware change.
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bengringo2 t1_iwxusjc wrote
My Apple TV pretty consistently interoperates with my C1. Even controls my sound bar.
Rotflmaocopter t1_ix1o5m0 wrote
Not my experience with the C1. I have used it for a year as my desktop computer for work and play. No burn in yet
rakehellion t1_ix9nqna wrote
How long have you played it?
WakednBaked t1_ixaoz4j wrote
Nah still shit.
TheMatt561 t1_ixav7tl wrote
Lame, glad I got a C10. They never should have changed the blades ui. My in-laws got a C1 and after the shit show I saw I told them to just go through the Comcast box and turned the internet to the TV off
ComCypher t1_ixb94t7 wrote
I have 175 hours on BOTW and 800 hours on Splatoon 2.
NOSWAG420 t1_ixmttqe wrote
I got the LG C2 OLED the other day to go with the PS5....upgrade from my few year old Samsung TV...and lemme tell ya WOW! I didn't know PS5 games looked this damn good! Freggin LG blew my mind.....
I thought the PS5 was having HDR issues becuase the games was too dark at times and other times the HDR looked like trash....This LG took care of all the problems I was complaining about...quick. Now that my eyes have been opened...these PS5 games are Absolutely Gorgeous! Somebody finally did something right for a change....
I highly recommend anyone looking to upgrade to a new TV for the PS5 to grab tha LG C2 OLED!! Its Legit!
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