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asyrin25 t1_iv0pox2 wrote

Reply to comment by MorgrainX in Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 prices for the European market leaked by MorgrainX

Flagship PC gaming IS a niche.

It should be a niche. "The very best graphics card money can buy" is never going to be mainstream and it never was.

Look at the steam hardware survey. Mainstream cards are xx60 and xx50.

These are enthusiast cards for people will8ng to pay out the nose to experience tech earlier.

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Jopojussi t1_iv1149p wrote

You know flagship gpu used to be like 400-500, just because it was and is niche its perfectly fine to charge 3x and keep going harder?

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asyrin25 t1_iv14jnc wrote

The last flagship card that was $500 was the GTX 480 in 2010. (non-inflation adjusted numbers)

RTX 3090 - $1500 (we won't count the 3090 ti because global shortage)

RTX 2080 ti - $1200

GTX 1080 ti - $700

GTX 980 ti - $650

GTX 780 ti - $699

GTX 690 - $999

GTX 590 - $700

GTX 480 - $500

And yes. The Market determines the value of the product. No one needs to push a few more pixels faster sooner.

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Jopojussi t1_iv171zp wrote

You can see the point when cryptominers started buying every single card, yet when theyre not buying them out anymore the price keeps still increasing, thats why im salty. And yes, as someone who pretty much plays only in vr, the frames are important.

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asyrin25 t1_iv18w1u wrote

I mean...you realize that as someone who plays only in high refresh PC VR you are a niche of a niche of a niche of a rich person's hobby...right?

A niche that didn't exist when flagship GPUs were $500

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Jopojussi t1_iv19gav wrote

Damn first time ive been called rich, im in the bottom 10% of my country wealthwise, thats why that price increase stings quite alot.

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asyrin25 t1_iv19mbl wrote

You're in the bottom 10% of your country but you have a multi thousand dollar VR gaming setup for fun?

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Jopojussi t1_iv1aeva wrote

Yes, also my pc cost about 1,4k so not really a multi thousand. I did save for quite a long time.

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asyrin25 t1_iv1drc9 wrote

The bottom 10% in the US is $8800/yr.

That's $4000 below the federal poverty level.

Don't you need the money for...food? Or education? Or housing?

Or....anything more important than video games when you're cripplingly poor?

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kryst4line t1_iv1regv wrote

I'm amazed of how suddenly you decided to change the topic.

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asyrin25 t1_iv1ski9 wrote

I was responding to his responses.

Here, I'll sum the discussion up:

"PC Gaming is going to become niche if flagship cards are so expensive!"

"Flagship cards are already niche and have always been."

"But flagship cards used to be $400-$500!"

"It's been 12 years since the last $500 flagship card"

"Does that make it okay?"

"Yes, because this isn't a NEEDED product. The market will determine its worth."

"I play exclusively PC VR I need this product!"

"PC VR is sub niche of a sub niche of a rich person's hobby. It's okay for the market to decide the value of that."

"JK, I'm not rich, I'm actually cripplingly poor."

"You're cripplingly poor with a multi thousand dollar gaming setup?"

"It's actually only $1,400"

"Why do you have a $1,400 PC if you're cripplingly poor?"

Alrighty. All caught up?

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