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cheekybeakykiwi t1_itjrlab wrote

Pro here.

Okay soooooooo expansion options and bus limits? All my workloads are shoveling data to expansion, or the number of I/O interfaces I can use.

Give me the number of pcie lanes and what version. 🤌🤌🤌

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Saaihead t1_itkgm5e wrote

Yeah, this is exactly what I thought. The big pro of the Pro is the option to expand your Mac, I'm really curious how (or if) they are going to support PCI-E expansions. And if the huge amount of GPU cores will bring the same performance as a high end AMD GPU. Cause to me this sounds like a Mac Pro becoming less Pro.

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yabaitanidehyousu t1_itktew4 wrote

Non-pro here.

I think they would have to be daft to force customers to move away from (end support for) their existing GPU dependencies (and investments), but then again, Apple is more focused on partner solutions, and they are in a position to support all major software vendors to switching their Metal implementations to any Apple Silicon based implementation.

Apple aims to make a workstation for high-brand software workflows and that is what they will do.

However, I think they have a long way to go to make a compelling ecosystem for high-end development. It’s already very restrictive with only one (edit: non-Apple) choice (AMD), and making that completely closed to Apple’s fledgling ecosystem is not attractive to me as a potential investment.

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ShutterBun t1_itldgxq wrote

Fledgling ecosystem? Seriously?

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yabaitanidehyousu t1_itngl9g wrote

We’re talking about removing support for PCIe expansion and depending on Apple Silicon. The whole transition to AS isn’t even complete yet. So, yes, fledgeling.

They have no discrete GPU, only SoC implementation.

Their ANE (APU) is the same and you need to convert into Core ML format.

Edit: I do not think they will actually drop support for PCIe because ARM-based SoCs can already implement PCIe.

But how support will look for existing devices is up to Apple and the vendors.

Putting expandability back into the pro was one of the major returns to form (as well as rack-mount), so I don’t see them going anywhere.

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Skips-T t1_itk5a67 wrote

PCIE? Lol

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cheekybeakykiwi t1_itk780a wrote

is there a new bus technology you'd like to educate me about?

I know IBM/Mainframes tend to be on the front foot on this stuff and they havent reported any new standard or tech.

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Skips-T t1_itmty9p wrote

Sorry, what I mean is, you're expecting Apple to use an industry standard expansion bus?

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cheekybeakykiwi t1_itntyja wrote

Unless they are manufacturing every single chip on their boards, which they aren't, they have use pci-e.

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Skips-T t1_ito3h0a wrote

Lmao damn got wrecked on karma 😂 And yeah they probably will use PCIE bit it's bold to assume you'll have expansion capabilies would've been the better way to phrase it

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