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836624 t1_irw5u2h wrote

Still don't get the point of 5G. In my experience a high-quality LTE deployment is plenty and I never felt like 5G was that fast (only ever used it in UAE).

Don't have 5G back home and don't want it, LTE serves me plenty well with 30-50mbps speeds and unlimited internet plans for ~7usd pcm.

It certainly serves no purpose in countries like UAE, USA and Canada, because you don't get enough allowance to take advantage of the high speeds..

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Pandanlard t1_irw7jdd wrote

Replying to 836624 (#77,796)

5G is made to deploy a lot of connected objects in the future. You can't have a city with everybody having his autonomous car if 5g wasn't reached.

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Buckshot211 t1_irw7sfc wrote

How about 4G support in Colorado? My damn phone doesn’t function with 4 bars in a neighborhood…

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imlilsteve t1_irw9lt7 wrote

Replying to 836624 (#77,796)

So my most beneficial use case has been inside of densely populated areas like a football stadium. Before 5g, my phone was basically without internet the entire time I was in the stadium. Now it works almost as if I’m at home on my home wifi network.

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836624 t1_irwa465 wrote

Replying to Stardew_IRL (#77,918)

I think proper implementation is more important than the standard. Sure, 5G has heaps more potential, but unless properly invested in, it will be overly congested and a pain for all involved.

Case in point: I frequently go out of town into a village settlement, and since everyone uses modems for internet there, LTE is insanely congested and switching to 3G provides a far nicer experience.

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intervested t1_irwb79x wrote

Replying to Stardew_IRL (#77,918)

mm wave 5g is. If you happen to be right near a cell site. The longer range 5g is like 20% faster than LTE on a good day. I don't really notice the difference between 300mbps and 360mbps.

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Stardew_IRL t1_irwbltn wrote

Replying to 836624 (#78,087)

Nothing you say makes sense. "5G will be overly congested!" meanwhile, "LTE is insanely congested, better switch to 3G!"

5G can handle much much more traffic than LTE and thus reduce everyone congestion overall. Of course with more and more people it'll fill up eventually, but your solution is to "not see the point" of an objectively better technology.

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836624 t1_irwd22z wrote

Replying to Stardew_IRL (#78,178)

Did you read what I said? I said LTE is congested out of town in a village settlement that I visit, where there are few LTE towers. This is what I expect from 5G in cities.

When I'm in the city, LTE works better for me than 5G ever did anywhere I visited.

I don't see the point in 5G now is what I mean. I think LTE could've remained the main standard for 5-10 more years and left to mature further as a good fallback for when new tech (5/6G) starts rolling out. Instead, my experience is that LTE is half-baked in many places and now those places are starting to roll out the same half-baked 5G.

LTE can be done well, however as I experienced in the UK, it can be done poorly, too. Sub 1-mbps speeds in places (small city, not London) and they're already rolling out 5G because it makes for a good selling point.

EDIT: this dude banned me for some reason

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brokenshells t1_irwdmvo wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#78,174)

This is incredibly false. 5G isn’t a single band, nor does it have anything to do with 5Ghz WiFi home networking. 5G operates at everything from 700Mhz to 3.8Ghz and has incredibly vast range. 5G is an evolution of LTE and uses the same exact network frequencies with no changes in coverage.

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LifeIsNotFairOof t1_irwiln1 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#78,302)

What? I was referring that if other smartphone providers can provide software updates to allow their smartphones to connect with Indian 5g standards why is apple taking such a long time?

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JustBarbarian10 t1_irwinof wrote

When I use 5G on the 13, all the tests say my speed has gone to almost ~400 mbps, but everything is way slower. Videos take 10x longer to buffer, pages don’t load, etc. Soon as I switch to LTE, speeds even back out to ~40 and everything loads instantly

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colablizzard t1_irwjl9q wrote

Replying to brokenshells (#78,250)

The 5G that runs on the lower Mhz bands isn't as fast as it's headline speed.

700Mhz that you mentioned, even on 5G is UP TO 300MBPs in ideal conditions.

You cannot defect physics.

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zernoc56 t1_irwl68z wrote

Replying to Stardew_IRL (#77,918)

If your service provider even has it. Never once seen my phone get 5g service. It’s either “LTE” or “1x” next to my cell service icon. Fuck T-Mobile, btw. I probably have drive an hour to go into downtown Cleveland to get 5G service. It’s literally a “Big City only” tech right now.

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Handheldchimp t1_irwp2ds wrote

Replying to 836624 (#77,796)

When 5G came into my area, the difference in speed from 4G-LTE was EXTREMELY noticeable. There's a lot of factors that go into it, so everyone's experience is going to vary a bit here and there.

Like you said, LTE serves you well, so you don't need it/won't notice an increase in speed. I am on the go constantly and have a Hotspot capable of 5G where speeds are detrimental. It has been amazing for me!

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PancAshAsh t1_irwujhw wrote

Replying to Handheldchimp (#78,804)

Modem manufacturers most definitely do have a role to play in that. Not all modems are created equal, and if Apple sold their modem to other companies they would have to provide a datasheet listing sensitivities at different bands.

That's to say, it's unlikely that Apple is the sole reason that this guy only gets 4 bars, but if you compared an iPhone and a Galaxy or Pixel at the same place at the same time you would get 3 different signal strengths.

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PancAshAsh t1_irwv38q wrote

Replying to zernoc56 (#78,604)

It will remain so for a long time because quite frankly that's where it is needed. The biggest advantages that 5G technologies (yes, many many technologies) bring is increased capacity. Generally speaking it won't be rolled out in rural areas because it's expensive and those towers don't really get that congested in comparison to urban towers.

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AccountantOk7335 t1_irwwcf1 wrote

5g has been literal dogshit for me lmao its not even worth it

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colglover t1_irx15qz wrote

Meanwhile Google fi users in the US still do not have 5G enabled

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zkareface t1_irx4qyr wrote

Replying to 836624 (#77,796)

Its just an upgrade to 4G though. They remove 4G networks and add 5G, if your phone only support 4G you stay on the 4G frequencies.

It allows for better reception, faster speeds, lower ping, more users.

The tech is straight up better in any scenario and in many places it has already replaced 4G. But any 4G device is compatible with 5G networks so users won't know if they are on 5G or not :)

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zkareface t1_irx5mca wrote

Replying to PancAshAsh (#79,107)

Rural areas is one of the places that will see highest benefit from 5G though since they most often are lacking capacity. Cities have so many basestations already that its not doing much.

You pretty much just swap the base station and instead of building more towers you increased capacity for a whole area greatly.

Where I am they already put 5G in areas with 100-500 inhabitants because 4G couldn't handle the traffic.

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zkareface t1_irx6cky wrote

Replying to Pandanlard (#77,911)

We will be on 7G before those cars are legal :D

6G should roll out before 2030 and 5G roll out is going super fast as its pretty much just a drop in replacement.

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ZombieBeach t1_irxp0qw wrote

Replying to 836624 (#77,796)

I’m in the US and use 5g (5g and 5gUW) the speeds are insanely fast compared to LTE. I do live in a major city and have constant connection. I turn off 5g when traveling out of the metro area.

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Nicky-unicorn t1_irxrim0 wrote

Doesn’t that mean that the West will accuse Apple of shady behaviour as India is doing massive amounts of trade with Russia who is sanctioned by western countries.

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SyedHRaza t1_iry16me wrote

Lucky we still don’t have 5G yet in PAK fingers crossed we get it soon

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juggarjew t1_iry6v3s wrote

Replying to 836624 (#77,796)

>Still don't get the point of 5G.

You've not tried 5G UC then. I got over 800 mbps down with line of site to a cell tower in a very rural area. My grandparents were getting 10 mbps from the local WISP , I got them on T-Mobile home internet and now they reliably get 400+ mbps, usually close to 800 mbps for $50 a month.

5G, when its actual 5G (like Ultra Capacity or mmWave) and not that fake rebranded LTE "5G" is actually hugely faster.

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ClientDigital t1_iryb8sy wrote

Replying to intervested (#78,153)

> mm wave 5g is.

As someone from a country without mmWave support mid-band 5G is still 5-10x faster. Also with similar range to LTE-A

In the real world, walking around my city I got: (up/down)

LTE-A: 174mbps/64mbps

5G: 229mbps/59mbps

C-Band 5G (5G+): 1059mbps/106mbps

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Avalanche2 t1_irynmfh wrote

5g sucks, worse than 4G/LTE so far.

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sinfernal t1_iryuuxr wrote

Is it just me or 5G has made no difference whatsoever. In fact, 4G is more reliable most times

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BrokenHero408 t1_irzmlde wrote

Replying to ChoripanConPepsi (#78,424)

Yet everytime apple releases an update for iOS that includes features that have been found in mid tier Android phones for some time, there's 10k up votes and hundreds of comments praising the genius that is Apple.

Lol

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Pazoll t1_irzrr2r wrote

Soon we will have 69G spots around

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tattoodlez t1_irzwq4h wrote

Way faster bobs and vagene

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Jet_Siegel t1_is4qc74 wrote

Replying to 836624 (#77,796)

It works flawlessly in KSA. I occasionally get data packs which have unlimited social media. Basically I can watch 4k videos on YouTube with twice speed without any buffering.

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