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drdrdoug t1_irs7byk wrote

Obvious observation.

- Don't use your phone while driving. (if you are dropping your phone while driving, maybe it is just a preventive 911 call)

- Turn off crash detection if you are on a roller coaster (bumper cars, demolition derby, etc)

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SJSragequit t1_irsf7l1 wrote

It’s illegal in a lot of places to even use your phone while driving. This more likely means a passenger drops there phone while the vehicle is moving

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_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ t1_irss0pn wrote

No, it means people are ignoring those laws.

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kraylus t1_irstodz wrote

“How can people use their phones if It’s ILLEGAL, Helloooooo!”

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deal-with-it- t1_irtb8z9 wrote

Of course, because it is absolutely not possible to put your phone on the dash or center console and have it fall during a corner or a brake.

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SJSragequit t1_irstw3k wrote

I’m sure people are, but I’m also sure a far greater amount of people having this issue are passengers and not drivers

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_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ t1_irsu6ri wrote

I think people trying to drive and use their phone at the same time are far more likely to drop the phone than passengers.

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tastyratz t1_irsfjvi wrote

More obvious observation:

Geofence crash detection on rollercoasters in known amusement parks because people won't do that.

You could also disable crash detection for 5 minutes when G forces and speeds exceed a certain criterea (i.e. combination of speed, accel, force, and time) when in the entire confines of an amusement park and similar locations.

This is easily solved through software by design. It won't fix corner cases (like traveling carnival rides) but I bet it solves a significant number of fixed location issues.

Edited to improve clarity after some confusion

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SkyeAuroline t1_irsqo45 wrote

>for 5 minutes

Most rides are significantly under 5 minutes, this wouldn't solve much...

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tastyratz t1_irss3l8 wrote

Most rides are absolutely under 5 minutes so detecting high speed and forces inside a geofence and then disabling for a 5 minute period every time should cover... most if not all rides.

If Apple is worried about liability then they could pop a temp notification that the feature is currently disabled for x reason (just like you might see with a wet charging port on android).

This allows for automatic crash and fall detection feature disablement without user interactivity in false detection scenarios.

The 5 minute timer could start every time they get on a ride and they can still have fall detection walking the park. They could even tie in heart rate / apple watch false readings.

This is also an EXTREMELY broad and short solution by a Redditor with very little investment. I am sure any implementation would get far more complex. Maybe it's... 4 minutes? 3? a weighted answer depending on forces?

Either way, it can easily be refined.

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SkyeAuroline t1_irst48i wrote

Okay, you meant "disabling for 5 minutes when those forces are detected in a geofenced area" - the way it was worded, it read like "disabling after 5 minutes of G-forces", which would be a whole lot harder to make work, lol. My mistake.

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tastyratz t1_irsvrt8 wrote

No worries, I could have been more clear by putting a comma after amount or saying "amount of time" so now I see where you had your confusion. That part is on me.

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locks_are_paranoid t1_itjxp3y wrote

The best way for Apple to not have liability is to not have any of these features in the first place. The world was perfectly fine when the only way to call 911 was to physically press the buttons 9-1-1 in the phone app. And the day the flip phones they were physical buttons, and in the days of rotary phones it was a dial. There was also a large swath of time where a landline phone would have physical buttons.

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ExiledLife t1_irt8xym wrote

In have my phone on the center console plugged in to the car. I've had it fall down from there while driving before. It is possible to drop the phone without directly using it.

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raxreddit t1_iruxxrj wrote

Yeah I have a suction mount for my phone. Considering how heavy the Pro/Pro Max models are... it doesn't take that much for the weight of the phone plus a hot day to cause the suction to fail. This causes the mount (with my phone) to come crashing down.

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whyisthissoharder t1_irsaafq wrote

How do you know if crash detection is on? I don’t have a 14 but I’m sure some people didn’t know it was turned on in the first place or have just gone long enough to forget it was turned on.

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elMurpherino t1_irsgk12 wrote

It’s in the sos and emergency section of the settings. Turn off the automatic call to 911 after crash

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thisischemistry t1_irugusq wrote

There is a toggle for it.

Apple: Turn Crash Detection on or off

> You can turn off alerts and automatic emergency calls from Apple after a severe car crash in Settings > Emergency SOS, then turn off Call After Severe Crash.

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raxreddit t1_iruy20e wrote

Time for Apple to add Roller Coaster Mode. /s

It would be yet another mode, like Theater Mode (watch) or Airplane Mode.

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JohannesOliver t1_irsp7sb wrote

Pretty sure it prompts you to turn it on or not during setup, just like fall detection on the watches.

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Blonsky t1_irsh3jz wrote

I got downvoted for suggesting people turn it off yesterday.

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drdrdoug t1_is1tqz5 wrote

Taking responsibility for things is often quite unpopular :-)

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ColorfulSoup172 t1_irshkgf wrote

I've had my phone drop from its mount if I accidentally hit a particularly bad pothole

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drdrdoug t1_is1tj11 wrote

Seems to be a mount problem, not an iPhone problem but maybe turn off crash detection until you can get a better mount or upgrade to Apple CarPlay.

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_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ t1_irss3yv wrote

You’re also not allowed phones (or any loose items) on rollercoasters.

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atypicalseattlite t1_irteiwq wrote

Not exactly. You're not allowed to have them out while riding, but you can carry them on with you if they are secured. Zippered pockets are wonderful for storing phones.

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TheGreyBrewer t1_irv04bm wrote

Obvious observation.

Buy a phone that doesn't make you turn off marginally useful features to live your life.

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drdrdoug t1_is1t0ht wrote

Or, on the other hand, buy the phone that has features, from very to moderately useful and allows them to turn on or off based upon preferences. I love how Apple haters seek to gain a sense of wellbeing from coming on an apple thread to comment on something they do not like and do not own. Unsolicited advice: Save your energies and apply them to the things you love, and thrive.

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ManInBlack829 t1_is0msps wrote

Lol people will forget to do both, even with good intentions.

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locks_are_paranoid t1_itjxekp wrote

The most obvious observation is that Apple should've never included the feature in the first place. The moment I saw an ad for the feature I knew that it would trigger false 911 calls.

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drdrdoug t1_itnxfem wrote

There is literally a button to turn off the feature if you don’t like it and it will remain off until you choose to turn it on again. But you solution is “I don’t like it, so nobody should have the upturn of using it.”

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