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bebova t1_jdev2x5 wrote

They also delivered the first mainboard upgrade for their original laptop. It’s on my list when I retire my desktop this year. I’m glad to see them making headway and love their GPU module idea. I’ll be fine with Iris Xe and more battery life, but this is cool for those that need it.

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Gronx-quately89 t1_jdfa6fn wrote

You don't have to toss that old motherboard either. You can buy or 3D print a case for it and use it as a mini desktop if you want.

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mkayyyy01 t1_jdfdxiw wrote

They also announced today that they are going to be selling a case for main boards. Cool stuff

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G8M8N8 t1_jdg4zza wrote

Technically the second and third upgrade. The Laptop 13 launched with 11th Gen Intel, then got 12th Gen, and now 13th Gen and AMD.

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bebova t1_jdid83f wrote

I went back to their site last night and I’m totally lit to see an AMD option. I’m not a gamer so a strong integrated GPU is good enough for me and will help with battery life. I almost pre-ordered it last night, but I’m going to wait a bit since they just pushed the delivery schedule back due to a delay from AMD on the new chip. 4nm thick CPU is crazy. My desktop has a R9 5900 and 3060ti. It smokes without hardly a sound. I’m really amped over framework now. Just need to make sure there’s no issue with Linux on the new CPU architecture.

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LazyActivePerson t1_jdxft10 wrote

I’ve seen a few comments with people hyped about AMD.

Curious what benefit is?

I’m a light user and a cursory search seems to yield that intel and AMD seem pretty similar

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bebova t1_jdxk973 wrote

They are in performance. Intel is faster on single core tasks and AMD fares better on multi-core tasks. So it depends on what you’re doing. AMD chips generally use less power which makes it easier to keep cool. AMD is often cheaper to get the same level of performance.

Either platform is fine for most people. The greatest thing AMD has accomplished is forcing Intel to be competitive. That means we get faster and more efficient systems for less money. I’ve used AMD products for years because they used to be a bit slower across the board and way cheaper than Intel. Overall, they’re both great and it’s just us nerds that have a preference. Completion brings excellence to the market!

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G8M8N8 t1_jdidp2r wrote

The AMD chips are still x86, same as Intel. There shouldn’t be any issues aside from graphics drivers.

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NeedsMoreGPUs t1_jdfvvw5 wrote

The fact that they weren't using MXM in the past, even just offering the OPTION, was a huge source of complaints against their design. Yes it adds complexity, but MXM has been a standard upgrade option in various workstation and gaming laptops since 2006. When Framework ignored it entirely from the start it was incredibly confusing. Also no the size of the machine does not inherently limit their ability to use MXM cards, there's both MXM-A and MXM-B size modules, and MXM-A is small enough to fit into a 14" chassis. Dell/Alienware has done it over the years, ACER did it over a decade ago on some Aspire and TravelMate machines, HP has done it on smaller EliteBook and ProBook models.

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UserInside t1_jdgzftt wrote

NVIDIA kinda fucked up MXM platform a few times. I remember MSI making GPU upgradeable gaming laptop, back in Kepler era GTX7xx, and when Maxwell came out (GTX9xx), they couldn't offer upgrade for a long time because of how the new GPU architecture was heavily modifyed in terms of power delivery. Also each MXM module cost an arm and leg individually, even if you are MSI/Asus and can get them for much cheaper than a random customer. Meaning it wasn't much more expensive to just sold your last gen laptop and get the new gen one.

So I'm still waiting to see how Framework handle this, because in the past much MUCH bigger company broke their teeth on that.

I'll need a new laptop soon, so I'm looking into this and hope for the best to Framework.

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