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virtualprince t1_jcmvtc1 wrote

Reply to comment by FSYigg in Apple Watch Could Help Treat Sickle Cell Disease Symptoms, Study Suggests by chrisdh79

Excuse me. I used the more sensible phrasing. You said “medical help”

Do you generally forget your own words shortly after writing them?

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FSYigg t1_jcmwjos wrote

>You said “medical help”

No, I didn't say that either. You're trying so hard to shoehorn words into my mouth and you're failing because this is text.

The entire gist of my statements are that an Apple Watch is not a medical device, shouldn't be trusted as one, and people referring to it as such should not be trusted either.

You've literally made up everything else here.

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virtualprince t1_jcmx5jl wrote

Also, feel free to explain what I made up if you can remember. You can scroll up if you need a refresher.

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JohnnyRyallsDentist t1_jcown07 wrote

FWIW, the debate between you and u/FSYigg is a little weird because you're both half right and half wrong.

You don't need an AED to detect AF. You just need an ECG. AF is diagnosed from irregularity and atrial activity as P waves, which the very basic-level ECG capabilities of the Apple watch are very capable of doing. A clinician can also fairly reliably detect the signs of AF with a stethoscope, although formal diagnosis would need to be confirmed by an ECG. More widely, cardiac problems generally need a 12 lead ECg, which the apple watch does not do. An apple watch can definitely detect AF. But it shouldn't be relied upon for formal diagnosis.

In other words, it's not a "medical device" in the sense that no doctor is likely to begin treatment for AF based on your own findings from a watch, but they would take a watch ECG seriously and reliably enough as a sign that further investigations are needed.

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virtualprince t1_jcp67cq wrote

I know. I wasn’t trying to open that can of worms. All I said was that it can be medically benifival and can help in finding afib as it has for people I know. The watch detects a change and pings the wearer to get looked at.

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