656666_ t1_javkvt0 wrote
Reply to comment by svr34 in The iPhone 15’s USB-C port might come with a catch - new report says third-party cables might not support fast charging by MicroSofty88
Yep, they stole that feature from android.
Skeptic_Sinner t1_jaw1s1w wrote
I have an android and it can fast charge from any adapter/cable that is powerful enough , what are you talking about
Comfortable0wn t1_jaymtcp wrote
So it's not every cable?
Skeptic_Sinner t1_jazlxpg wrote
You cannot fast charge from something that is physically incapable of handling fast charging. The problem with apple is that other brands' cables can handle it but are apple isn't allowing them to work properly
How do you think this is a gotcha holy shit
chewb t1_jawuesg wrote
And thousands others have VOOC, Dash/Dart/warp/supervooc charge compatible phones that don’t.
Commence the downvotes, android fanboys
Skeptic_Sinner t1_jawzfn3 wrote
So it's not an android thing, it's a problem of some phones that use android. And since it's not a problem with the system you can't say that apple stole it from android.
chewb t1_jaxrbf7 wrote
weird how apple stole capacitive touchscreens, high resolution displays, multiple cameras and pretty much everything from android but hey, have one bad feature available in hundreds thousands of phones that they copied and NOO, they're not really copying android this time, just a few models that have this feature, so definitely not all of android 🤣 weird how that works
Skeptic_Sinner t1_jaxrq9m wrote
They are not copying android because android as an operating system allows fast charging from any source. Stop saying "android" as if it's a brand that makes phones or something.
The rest of your rant is just putting words in my mouth and not worth responding to. Just know that apple couldn have copied screens or cameras from android because android has no screens nor cameras
speculatrix t1_javqm0s wrote
There's been substandard cables but a cable that functions to specification will work fine in every android phone that also meets the spec.
chewb t1_jawtb75 wrote
Will supervooc and other phones also charge with the 65W of usb-c?
speculatrix t1_jaxdpka wrote
I think that's one of the proprietary systems, I don't know whether their more recent products will support standard high speed charging.
chewb t1_jaxqez2 wrote
so android doing it first then
speculatrix t1_jazp1ju wrote
Once, there was no standard at all for high speed charging. These phones proved it was possible and that people would pay for it.
Apple are taking an existing well-established standard and making a proprietary version specifically so they can screw their customers by having expensive charging cables.
See the difference?
chewb t1_jb06s95 wrote
iphones can charge with the usb-c standard up to 30W today, they use the PD standard of USB-c
These companies didn't use PD, they are using the usb-c cable and standard but not the USB Power Delivery standard. This might or might not be copied by apple.
My comment brought attention to the fact that if it's a feature present on just one model android phone, apple is copying them but if it's a bad feature, it's not copying android, just a few bad apples, which is a double standard
speculatrix t1_jb08qqb wrote
But iPhones use lightning cables, with a chip, to lock them into Apple or authorised products
656666_ t1_jaw2qw1 wrote
Some android phones need specific cables, otherwise their quick charge won’t work.
LeapIntoInaction t1_jaw6cwe wrote
Right. You have to use decent cables, not the minimal-level older designs. This is not some kind of vendor lock-in. You can use any cable that supports modern standards.
[deleted] t1_jaxox07 wrote
No. Stuff like SuperVOOC or WARP charge has nothing to do with cable quality. It's simply a proprietary standard lock-in, and you can tell by the fact that the other side of the Type-C cable is an old USB-A.
Use the best Type-C you can find and you still won't have access to it.
yuxulu t1_jawnlus wrote
If you are talking about some of the insane charging speeds by chinese phones, i think it is because they deliver 120w which is higher than other charger/cables.
656666_ t1_jazniae wrote
That’s what i was referring to.
yuxulu t1_jazpqdl wrote
The thing is no other chargers deliver 120w. If one comes along from another brand, I'm fairly sure it would still work. However, iPhone charger is only 20w (based on apple https://support.apple.com/en-sg/guide/iphone/iph8c1e31583/ios) and they are going to restrict to 5w if not using their charger? What excuses do they have for that?
656666_ t1_jb0wjae wrote
The article is just a guess and would be just the case for the iPhone 15. we don’t know yet what specs it might have. You can just assume that it will be still just 20w.
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