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FUTURE10S t1_j8dl2gk wrote

Reply to comment by Cynical_Cyanide in Motherboard Shipments Plummet by Ten Million Units in 2022 by Avieshek

Remember when cheap boards were like $50 and the more expensive overclocker boards were $130? I remember the Z97 Anniversary, great board, $99.

Now, let's say I want to build a computer with the new 13th gen CPUs...

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Stone-Baked t1_j8dm5po wrote

Throughout my entire child good I was able to scrap together a decent build for cheap . Now it’s insane for new stuff

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jesbiil t1_j8dmjzu wrote

Back in MY DAY I could build an entire desktop for...awww fuck we're old :).

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Cynical_Cyanide t1_j8dmzfy wrote

Mate, it wasn't even that long ago! When the intel 8000 series and Nvidia 10 series was fresh, prices were sane. That was only 2017-18, man.

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Ok-disaster2022 t1_j8dqavk wrote

Yep. And there was promise that prices would start to come down with AMD getting competitive on CPUs again. What ended up happening was Intel and AMD started increasing power consumption on CPUs to get even more clocks, and higher power draw means higher quality components. Then with the supply issues (even motherboards have on board chips) due to Pandemic price gouging became the norm, and Everyone was okay with it

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PancAshAsh t1_j8du5oi wrote

What makes you think the supply chain issues plaguing us since the start of the pandemic have gone away?

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BigDigger324 t1_j8e49bk wrote

They definitely haven’t gone away BUT they have lessened to a significant degree yet prices haven’t bothered to come back down….crazy who could have seen this coming?!

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MakingItElsewhere t1_j8gmdng wrote

And when people ask "Why is random thing high priced!?!" all you get is "Have you been living under a rock for 3 years!?!"

Like, dude, shit shouldn't STAY doubled in price just because companies want to keep their stock price up.

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Adam_is_Nutz t1_j8dwttw wrote

I built in 2019 right before the pandemic. Whole setup including mouse, keyboard, and monitor for just under $1200. My gpu was like $550 and my motherboard was $65.

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Cynical_Cyanide t1_j8gxmzm wrote

With respect, that doesn't mean much without context. It's possible to build a PC for that amount right now - it'll just suck at gaming.

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Adam_is_Nutz t1_j8gxsb9 wrote

Thats fair. It was basically top of the line amd right before Nvidia dropped the 3000s

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sad_asian_noodle t1_j8hqv6t wrote

That's a cheap mobo.

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Adam_is_Nutz t1_j8hv0qc wrote

Its PCIe 4. I bought the cheapest one I could find with that spec cuz it was my first build. No cool lights or anything.

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FUTURE10S t1_j8e110v wrote

10 series? Try 9 or 7, the 970, outside of being 3.5GB+0.5GB, was exceptionally good performance for $329.

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Cynical_Cyanide t1_j8gxksr wrote

I mean you're not wrong, but I'm just talking about acceptable value, not even great value.

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lordytoo t1_j8fgiqk wrote

Blame eth.

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Darth-Flan t1_j8ge3s2 wrote

Seriously I blame all this on crypto mining, then the pandemic then supply chain. In that order. Now manufacturers are not decreasing prices as demand and supply chain issues have lessened.

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lordytoo t1_j8how2n wrote

Yea ppl are too caught up on gpu prices the pasy 2 years. I remember the last bull run in 2017 when 1000 series cards got jacked because eth hit 1400$. Good times lol

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TheAmorphous t1_j8dporb wrote

I'm older. Back in the 90s building PCs was expensive. It's almost like we're going back to that.

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FUTURE10S t1_j8e1c2p wrote

At least unlike the 90s, our PC hardware doesn't become irrelevant in 2 years. I'm only now starting to see problems using a Ryzen 3600, but I knew it was going to happen sooner or later, and it's only in specific scenarios. Waiting for the 7950X3D's benchmark before I upgrade and stick with a platform for a few years, but if the 14th gen Intel chips are the power efficiency powerhouse rumours say, I might just skip AMD altogether.

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SoWereDoingThis t1_j8e3s6f wrote

Why not the ryzen 5800x3d for a lot less initial investment by staying with AM4?

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FUTURE10S t1_j8fdjyl wrote

8 physical cores isn't enough, I need at least 12.

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Stone-Baked t1_j8fqdqj wrote

Exactly what I did . Went from a 3600x to 5800x3d and it’s amazing!

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TheAmorphous t1_j8e42ma wrote

I'm on an old Broadwell machine and was thinking the same. Then MicroCenter kept emailing me about that $600 7900x bundle and wore me down. Can't beat that price really.

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Ok_Marionberry_9932 t1_j8ef020 wrote

If you recycled everything from you old computer a few hundred bucks and you’re top notch again

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ButterflyAttack t1_j8h44m1 wrote

Shit, about twenty years ago people used to leave old computers out on the street. I'd pick them up and swap out faulty components with working bits from other machines I'd found. Eventually set up a free internet cafe thingie in a local kind of community squat. Only had half a dozen machines working at any time and there was constant maintenance but it was an inner city area where everyone except the drug dealers was broke and it was somewhere people could get online for free. It's been years since I've seen old computers dumped like that. People seem to hang onto them as long as they can, which is great - too much e-waste anyway. Plus everyone has tablets now I guess.

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Cynical_Cyanide t1_j8dmsmo wrote

Right? And yet the 'news' here is that they're mysteriously shipping less parts? No shit they're shipping less parts, they can't sell them as quickly when they're charging 2x as much ...

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rodclutcher101 t1_j8ejg4j wrote

And no decent graphics card available why would you bother upgrading you motherboard

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PancAshAsh t1_j8duknj wrote

With how fucked the supply chain still is they probably wouldn't be able to produce all that many more. Like graphics cards, motherboards are complex products made of hundreds of components, and if there's a supply issue with any one of them it has to be worked around.

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froggz01 t1_j8dy4y2 wrote

Ok I thought it was just me. The last time I upgraded my motherboard was 5 years ago and I payed $180 for top of the line one. I recently was building a new build and just gave up because of the prices of motherboards are straight up ridiculous now.

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JohnnyAK907 t1_j8ev93s wrote

Keep in mind motherboards these days have a lot built in compared to older boards. 150-200 bucks for a well equipped board isn't that much of an ask, and it's been 8 years since I built my own rig.
Anyway, other than the SSD I would buy everything used anyway. Why pay bleeding edge prices when everything is going to be "obsolete" in a couple months?

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Excludos t1_j8fnzrt wrote

Things are going "not obsolete" at record pace. Meaning a computer has never held itself better than it does today. You can buy a high end gaming og today and still expect to be able to be able to play AAA games on decent graphics in 6-7 years. There was a time when your high end gaming pc could barely survive 2.

On the flip side, there's not a huge amount of money to be saved by buying used any more. Back in the LTT Scrapyard war days you could get entire computers capable of playing very decent games for almost nothing, people where practically throwing them away. Now, as computers hold up better, so does their value

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FUTURE10S t1_j8fdgoe wrote

> Why pay bleeding edge prices when everything is going to be "obsolete" in a couple months?

Warranty and to get the best performance now. I don't buy drives or storage used, already been burnt on storage by buying off Reddit. Like, this is why I'm waiting, I really do need the extra cores.

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