chriswaco t1_j84ehc0 wrote
Other than gaming, there's little reason to upgrade. PCs plateaued - most people upgrade when something breaks or they have so much crud on the old one they want to replace it. Apple's switch to the M1 was a big step in both speed and battery life, but it isn't worth upgrading to an M2 from an M1, plus the prices for RAM and SSD upgrades are crazy.
Radiobandit t1_j84is0l wrote
Well basing anything off the price gouge offered by a PC company is a bit silly. I was browsing for an upgrade for a friend the other day and to upgrade the RAM and SSD from 8g-16g and 512MB-1TB respectively raised the price by around 500. Meanwhile the individual prices of just buying a 2TB M.2 SSD and 16g of ram from newegg was about 150 pounds. Imagine more than tripling the price for what amounts to 3 screws worth of work.
ReviewImpossible3568 t1_j855lcy wrote
Apple’s components are not the same. The M series chips use on-package ultrafast (I forget what type) memory that’s accessible by the CPU and GPU and cannot physically be swapped, it’s not like before when they soldered the DIMMs for no reason, packaging it this way actually gives a performance benefit. The SSD I will give you being overpriced, but Apple’s SSDs are still super fast and not that bad.
Vanman04 t1_j8bmxn5 wrote
Nah it's LPDDR5 and you can get it all day for around $100 for 16gb
Apple straight up robs people and has been for decades now.
ReviewImpossible3568 t1_j8bz501 wrote
No, it actually does not work that way. I can’t speak to you on whether it’s LPDDR5 or not but it’s on the package which means there’s no way you’re gonna be swapping it. It’s an SoC.
Vanman04 t1_j8cl5xq wrote
Well yes and no.
Yes it's an Soc but it is not magic memory.it's ddr5 with an apple proprietary connection.
The point remains the memory is not nearly as expensive as what apple.is charging for it. It is also a practice they have had since long before the new CPU.
Apple has one of the highest profit margins in the world and it is because they overcharge you for everything.
I would not touch one of these machines with a ten foot pole just because of the proprietary fort nox they have on replacement parts.I mean it is beyond ridiculous at this point. They now have the track pad serialized so you can't replace it without getting the part from them.
That's predatory in my opinion.
Nice machines but apple can go fuck right off.
ReviewImpossible3568 t1_j8cn10n wrote
Yeah, I mostly agree with that. I’m not gonna pretend that I’m a hugely knowledgeable memory nerd, but I do know a bit and I’m pretty sure that having the memory on the package gives some form of benefit, and obviously because it’s on-package you’re not gonna be able to replace it. That said, their soldered DDR4 chips in their older (2016-2019 afaik) laptops were pretty stupid and anti-consumer.
And yes, Apple does charge extra for their machines. I’m happy to pay it because I live in the walled garden and because I’m reasonably sure that they’re not monetizing my data in return for that extra money that I pay them, but I can see why people would be upset about it. I own a custom build as well and while I love tinkering with it (I just did a full transplant into a smaller ITX case, which was a huge pain but super rewarding), my Apple devices just fit my life better. I would never want to do any form of work on my Windows machine, those little creature comforts that you get from having a full ecosystem (seriously, I own and actively use every single class of their products except a desktop Mac) are just without parallel. Nobody has created the ecosystem that they have, and that + privacy is really what you’re paying for when you spend $400 extra for RAM that costs them like, $50 to make.
JeffFromSchool t1_j85me1g wrote
Do people game on macs?
chriswaco t1_j85nia2 wrote
Some do. More on iOS. Serious gamers don't from what I can tell.
JeffFromSchool t1_j85pc5k wrote
I was going to say, I'm not sure their graphics processors compete with Nvidia or AMD right now
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