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Valgardos t1_itki3vu wrote

nudja or nduja?

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itkkxy7 wrote

Nduja! Nudja is when you’re eating it naked, sorry!

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Rudefoot113 t1_itpv2vs wrote

Nudja :- A term to describe a gentleman who presses his lower abdomen forcibly into the rear end of ladies (unnoticed) in public areas, bus qeues, tube stations, harrods winter sales etc. thus achieving a status of erectus memberus.

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mapleisthesky t1_itlz36u wrote

There's also nunya.

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mp111 t1_itm8eup wrote

I love nunya. Goes great with a side of ligma

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gianluca_pettinello t1_itmh04j wrote

I always ask myself why northern world people distort names. 'nduja is a type of sausage, not difficult to write

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mp111 t1_itmh5j2 wrote

Sounds like you are due for some ligma, it’ll help you feel better

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Mynameiswhqq t1_itmtan7 wrote

Sounds like you need some bofa

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mp111 t1_itmtcrf wrote

Bank of America?

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Mynameiswhqq t1_itmtimk wrote

Yes, your in dire need of a financial advisor, you keep spending too much money to play with BOFA DEEZE NUTS

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mp111 t1_itn0wom wrote

😂🤣😭🙌🏽🙏🏽🤙🏽

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gianluca_pettinello t1_itmi38l wrote

Nice comment, really, you could come to the suburb in Palermo and joke with some youngster. Maybe you make him smile... for 3 seconds....

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PilotSaysHello t1_itmn9xq wrote

I use ketchup on my spaghetti and there is nothing you can about it.

Seethe

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Rcole1128 t1_itobzr1 wrote

Because Nduja isn’t just sausage. It’s a specific kind of sausage among many others. That’s like saying I don’t know why people don’t just call Parmesan cheese.

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Reach_Beyond t1_itkvnj3 wrote

Some of the comments are cracking me up. Clearly Italian pizza and they’re not in the US. Some comments “those are well done and are you using a fork”. More than 1 way to have pizza.

One thing I can’t get over in Italy is it’s standard to order your own pizza and it’s a lot of food!

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RedDordit t1_itmjmsl wrote

>one thing I can’t get over in Italy is it’s standard to order your own pizza and it’s a lot of food

Can I ask what do you means by that? Just the fact that we eat the whole thing instead of individual slices?

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Reach_Beyond t1_itmp6jo wrote

Yeah the size of pizza in the image is what I’ve always had in Italy. It felt like too much for me to eat in a meal. But when I get a pasta dish in Italy it’s always a reasonable amount or slightly too small.

The US is opposite. A personal pizza is almost too small, then portions of pasta are always massive!

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RedDordit t1_itmpljr wrote

Yeah, it’s cause pizza is a whole meal, while pasta is a first course, so you’re supposed to have a second one, say meat.

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Reach_Beyond t1_itmq6me wrote

Bruh, I need some more Italian friends to explain this prior. Been to Italy twice and it seems I’ve been doing it all wrong! Either way I’ve never gone hungry in Italian with all the amazing food.

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RedDordit t1_itmqt38 wrote

Lol, also there’s no problem if you realize the dish is too small as a main course and decide to order something else. It will take longer to prepare and you’ll have to wait, but they’ll be happy to do it. Restaurants cost more than pizzerias for obvious reasons, but usually a reliable way to tell if a dish will be enough is by the price. Tho it depends how expensive the place is

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Mynameiswhqq t1_itmtzzr wrote

Unpopular opinion as a person who loves both fancy and trashy food - if you serve me a pizza and I’m expected to cut it with a knife and fork I will be pissed off and never order pizza from you again. We both know what a slice of pizza should look like, it will always be a shitty sloppy mess making me cut it myself just use the pizza cutter and get your head out of your ass full stop

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Acceptable_Offer_146 t1_itlasyk wrote

I was extremely uncomfortable for a minute as I thought that was a boiled egg for some reason 😂😂

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itletn0 wrote

May I offer you a nice egg in this trying time?

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Aestroj t1_itlid7w wrote

Underrated reference

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Jindabyne1 t1_itm1h6j wrote

It’s not even underrated and you wrote that at the same time it was posted

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Wader_Man t1_itla2u1 wrote

Now that's what it's supposed to look like! I hope it tasted just as perfectly as this photo makes it look!

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Bistrocca t1_itkpb8c wrote

Those are well done pizzas, are you in italy?

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itkqw7r wrote

Yes, Sorbillo in Naples! Michelin star :)

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jstonecfc t1_itkvssv wrote

I went there this year too, the best pizza I ever had! Had to order 2. Enjoy!!

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3a5m t1_itngb5x wrote

Yum! Just left from spending a month in Italy. Da Michele lived up to the hype, but I think I liked 50 Kalo even more. Especially their nduja.

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CHOPPERDONDOPOLOUS t1_itmhz40 wrote

Source on the Michelin star?

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Xanthus179 t1_itmrhsi wrote

The Michelin Guide. Where else?

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Gabrielasse t1_itqw585 wrote

It does not have a star. It can be on the guide with no star, meaning it’s Michelin “Rated”

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CHOPPERDONDOPOLOUS t1_itwy82y wrote

It doesn’t have a Michelin star, that’s why I said source? Look at my downvotes, look what you’ve done

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Gabrielasse t1_itl2yr1 wrote

I'm sure the pizza was good, but what made you think the restaurant has a Michelin star?

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itlekvq wrote

Because it has one

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Gabrielasse t1_itqw7ty wrote

No, it’s just Michelin rated. Where do you see it having a star?

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itr2k0w wrote

On the Michelin guide

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Gabrielasse t1_itrealp wrote

Yeah but only with the Michelin man licking his chops. Means it’s a rated restaurant (good food at a good price) but that is different from getting a Michelin star. I just was pointing out that detail as it’s quite important

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itrt1z2 wrote

It certainly is important, that’s why I’m telling you they have a Michelin star.

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Gabrielasse t1_itrujmo wrote

Ok, then can you provide a source? Because I’m trying to find one without any success.

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karnefalos t1_itl87fq wrote

Gino Sorbillo in Naples seems to have one so maybe he was there.

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Gabrielasse t1_itre2f2 wrote

It’s only rated by the Michelin guide with the face of the Michelin man licking his chops, which means it’s a great place to eat at a good price. However that is not a star. They’re two entirely different things. I know it sounds like I’m the Michelin police or something, so sorry for that but I just wanted to point that out.

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Jindabyne1 t1_itm1lok wrote

Could you not have taken a wild guess?

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Gabrielasse t1_itp14jy wrote

I'm not sure why I'm getting downvoted, but there are literally no sources supporting that it has received a Michelin star. Being Michelin rated is not the same as receiving a star and I just wanted to point that out. I know it may sound snobby, but there is a difference.

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Jindabyne1 t1_itpn57r wrote

You’re probably right, it’s just in the guide.

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QuentinVance t1_itlfg0t wrote

I'm glad you're enjoying Italy!

Also weird to see nduja in somewhere that's not Calabria

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onioning t1_itlz3l5 wrote

I wonder if it's a back and forth thing. Is Nduja now more common in the North because of the American popularity? I was one of the people who did the original US Nduja, so it's kind of cool to think we caused this to happen (if indeed it has happened).

Edit: wtf? No idea why such an innocuous and true statement is getting downvoted. People get offended by the weirdest shit.

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Jindabyne1 t1_itm1u39 wrote

Americans want to take credit for everything

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RedDordit t1_itmkkag wrote

Remember pizza? Yeah, we discovered it in Naples, tweaked the ingredients a bit making our own version, and we popularized it in northern Italy and then in all the world.

Source: Murica

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Jindabyne1 t1_itmkqx6 wrote

I can’t believe you just said that.

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RedDordit t1_itml7q7 wrote

You don’t believe I was making fun on the guy you replied to?

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Jindabyne1 t1_itmldgp wrote

I just realised and you replied before I had a chance to edit my comment. Americans have actually said nearly the exact same thing though.

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QuentinVance t1_itm309j wrote

>I was one of the people who did the original US Nduja

Not exactly sure what you mean or where this sentence comes from..

Nduja is a typical product of the southern parts of Italy. As far as I know, it's not really that popular, but if it is... that's got nothing to do with America.

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onioning t1_itm4u39 wrote

The American product is a bit different. The Italian product doesn't exist in the US, but the americanized version we created has gotten pretty popular.

There are now several brands making the americanized version we developed. Since it's become much more popular in the US that could explain how and why it's spread out of the South. Wouldn't be the first time this happened. It's a pretty normal thing really.

Again note that Nduja was not typically found outside Calabria. Now it's more commonly found outside Calabria. What has changed is that now it's trendy in the US. Sorry. Thought all this was already clear.

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reflix8 t1_itmibiv wrote

what are u even talking about

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onioning t1_itmk455 wrote

I don't know what's unclear. Nduja used to be unseen outside of Calabria. Then the American version was made and it got really popular. Now it's seen all over Italy. Those things could plausibly be unrelated, but probably not.

Worth noting that my view here was informed by listening to Italian chefs and salumi experts. Except they just present it as fact while I hedge with "probablies."

None of this should be in any way contentious. More reddit with sticks up butts for no reason.

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RedDordit t1_itmkeu5 wrote

You think northern Italians know anything about fake Italian food y’all do in America? I don’t mean to shit on you, every country makes up their own version of foreign food, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

But to think that a certain dish had to pass through the US to get from Calabria to northern Italy is simply stupid. Don’t you think maybe, just maybe, geographically and culturally we’re closer to each other than we are to the US?

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onioning t1_itmldx5 wrote

No. I'm not saying anything like that. But American culinary trends do most definitely impact Italian culinary trends. There are too many American tourists for a nation with so much tourism to just not care. So of course they follow trends. You know, like everyone who caters to tourists. Do you think Italian chefs don't pay attention to the American culinary scene?

So really, you don't find this plausible? From whenever Nduja was invented until the early 2010s it was almost unseen outside Calabria. Then it got really trendy in the US. Now it's seen throughout Italy. You don't think those things could plausibly be connected? Has to be just a coincidence? Come on. I'm not saying it's definite, but its very likely. Certainly plausible.

Incidentally, while still not exactly widespread, American style pepperoni did a similar thing. Started as a southern Italian salami, got changed in the US, and now there are producers of their take on it all over Italy. The US is fucking historically rich. Of course that has an impact.

Also the American version is not fake. It's fucking delicious too.

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East-Seawness56 t1_itncqgt wrote

Dude I'm italian I can assure you 100% italians aren't doing anything based on what Americans think or what's trendy in America, they don't care at all. They'll serve you what they make and if Americans don't like it theyll tell you to leave or fcuck off. And where are you finding American style pepperoni on pizza or something similar, in the south atleast I've never seen such a thing it doesn't exist

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onioning t1_itndl5u wrote

Ok man. And all the Italians I've worked with are just making it all up. Lived there for about a year and a half on the by and by. Working with chefs and salumiere (mostly the latter, but they do love to mingle). Universally decried the American influence. And would talk about nothing else. Seriously got old.

If you don't think you can more readily find bacon or pepperoni in a larger city because of the American influence you're fooling yourself. There are McDonald's! All sorts of US fast food. But you think there's no influence? Come on. That's just ridiculous.

And again, fancy places are doing it for their tourist customers. Of course they pay attention to what their tourist customers do. Arguing otherwise is silly. That's how the world works.

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East-Seawness56 t1_ito6jq9 wrote

I'm not going back and forth on this, I don't really care if you supposedly lived there for a year even if it's hypothetically true it doesn't make you italian or knowing the culture and how they only talked about American influence i know for a fact thats a lie most europeans look down on American cuisine and the only thing they like or can be impressed with is the big gluttinous portions. You sound like one of those annoying americans who goes abroad on vacation for a week and thinks theyre a conniseur on that country. Also a lot of larger cities in italy dont like tourism and dont want them there, which i dont get because the money it brings in, so they're not going to cater to their stupidity. The closest thing you'll find to bacon is pancetta and salamis, "pepperoni" in itsly is literally aliced peppers the vegetable on pizza.

McDonald's is everywhere so that point is proving nothing, I have a McDonald's post on my account from Italy when I was there in the summer for my cousins wedding

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onioning t1_itoe8j3 wrote

>McDonald's is everywhere so that point is proving nothing, I have a McDonald's post on my account from Italy when I was there in the summer for my cousins wedding

That's the whole point. They are everywhere, because American influence is everywhere. You seriously going to argue that McDonald's isn't American influence? That's ridiculous. You just aren't being serious about this. Just making up reasons to be outraged.

Seriously find one established Italian chef who doesn't think there's such thing as American influence in modern Italian. Or just recognize the realities all around you. But no, I'm sure it's actually that shitty burgers and fries just happened to develop independently in Italy. Totally not American influence. Come one. What a crazy lie to tell yourself.

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East-Seawness56 t1_itof0jt wrote

You're the one whose outraged I don't know why you're getting all bent out of shape and butt hurt arguing with everyone over American influence, go to bed dude seriously. Go find something else go be passionate about and stand on a hill for. You're literally the definition of an annoying american abroad

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onioning t1_itoii4q wrote

Outraged? What are you talking about? How am I outraged? I think it's dumb that people downvote very legitimate statements, but whatever. Not really my business. The outraged are the people who are all "No. This one place on Earth is somehow free from American business interests."

Quit it with that troll garbage. You can argue without being a jerk. Just don't. You know jack squat about me except that I recognize the impact American cultural imperialism has. Don't go into that insult garbage. Disagree however much you want. Upvote and downvote as you like. Don't be a jerk. I haven't been rude to anyone. Just uncalled for.

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East-Seawness56 t1_ito7gj6 wrote

Also how where you in italy over a year more than 3 months you need a visa and its only up to a year, they're not gonna give you a work visa for a tourist to go work in a salumeria to find the job randomly once they're already there

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onioning t1_itoebkg wrote

I was not a tourist. It was my career. I had work agreements with my hosts.

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East-Seawness56 t1_itoepbv wrote

Thats not answering the question, italy doesn't give visas once you're already there you need to get them in your native country at the consulate, what are you saying you went to italy, got a job in a salumeria and they went all out and through hoops to get you a visa? That is very unlikely

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onioning t1_itohy0f wrote

No. I had a job in the US. The people I worked for in the US had a partnership with Italian producers. I worked with those producers. It's not hard to get the visas when you have legitimate reasons.

Maybe instead of trying to make things up to make me wrong you'll consider what I'm actually saying and not these other things.

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sneer0101 t1_itqaujr wrote

>But American culinary trends do most definitely impact Italian culinary trends

No they don't. At all.

You really do think the world revolves around you and its pure delusion.

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onioning t1_itqtrpy wrote

Where did McDonald's come from? Are burgers and fries an inherently Italian food?

Come on. This is insane.

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TrypMole t1_itmz6h5 wrote

People are downvoting because Nduja is popular because of Italy, not America. Here in the UK a few years back it became the awesome new thing on "This random celebrity travels round Italy" type cooking shows, very quickly after that it was on every cooking show, it was the new trendy ingredient. Nothing to do with America, everything to do with Italy. Ask a Brit where Nduja comes from and if they've heard of it they'll rightly say Italy, most won't even have a clue it even exists in America. Its really reaching to say a southern Italian food is popular in northern Italy because of America. You gonna claim Tropea onions next?

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onioning t1_itn8a0h wrote

Obviously Nduja comes from Italy. Of course.

Again, consider these facts and then tell me I'm being unreasonable.

Nduja existed in Calabria for a long time. I don't know how long. A very long time. It was not unknown outside of Calabria, but was very rarely seen.

Nduja in it's American form got super popular and trendy.

Right after that it started appearing outside of Calabria.

Come on. I'm not being unreasonable here. This is also perfectly normal and how food trends often work. They can even bounce back and forth a la Japanese Curry in the US.

American cultural influence is outsized. That happens when you're rich. American culinary scenes impacting culinary scenes elsewhere is the norm of modern times. Italy is by no means a stranger to this. It's an economic reality. It isn't just random circumstance that what was a local specialty started appearing all over Italy. Same forces have done wonders for the arugula industry. There's an entire existing industry of Italian Pepperoni, as in Italian takes on the American idea of pepperoni. This is all normal. What's popular sells, and when a thing gets popular in America it sells a whole lot. It's not a good thing, but it's definitely a true thing.

I've worked in Italy with chefs and salumi producers and it's a running joke when I ask "I thought such and such was an American thing?" Because it is, and they're a business, and they know their clients. Mostly manifests in a passionate hatred for smoking anything, but it's very definitely a thing. British trends similarly impact the nations where Brits historically spent lots of money.

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TrypMole t1_itp0kd4 wrote

Yes. You're being unreasonable because you're assuming America has a greater influence on European cuisine than other European countries, which is crazy. We are literally right next door to each other and you are several timezones away on a different continent. What do you really think is more likely that European cuisine spread to its neighbours or that we just don't try anything our neighbours eat until America tells us to? That's like me saying "wow, they must have KC BBQ in New York now cause its popular in Britain "

Added to which I've been visiting Calabria for about 20 years and I've only seen a notable amount of Americans there since Covid, before that very few if any. Northern Italians though? Yeah, LOADS of them, it's where they go on holiday.

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onioning t1_itqumii wrote

>Yes. You're being unreasonable because you're assuming America has a greater influence on European cuisine than other European countries, which is crazy.

Nope. I did not assume that. I've even explicitly stated otherwise by pointing out that there is British cultural imperialism too. Not as powerful as the American (now) because it's about wealth and America has the most wealth. Worth noting at one time in history is was the Italians who were the dominant global power and hence the cultural imperialists. But in 2022 it's the US.

I have also talked about other ways that food culture has bounced around. In no way whatsoever have I suggested that the US is the only nation that impacts others. You are making that up.

Again, this isn't some blind "this was popular here so it must be popular there because of here." The timing is the point. It would be a stupid crazy coincidence if Nduja just happened to get popular throughout Italy just after it got popular in the US. A coincidence is not a reasonable conclusion. Regardless, the circumstance at minimum make my conclusion plausible.

There's also a ton of history of this happening. The organization Slow Food literally exists to oppose American cultural imperialism. But folks here think it doesn't exist? Come on.

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sneer0101 t1_itqbba1 wrote

You think this way because you're completely ignorant about how the rest of the world works.

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onioning t1_itqto28 wrote

So you don't think that economic forces exist that make businesses tend to adjust to meet the need of their clientele? I'm entirely wrong about that? It's "completely ignorant?"

Give me a break. You people are gaslighting me. Pretending McDonald's doesn't exist. Pretending you can't get burgers and fries in Italy. This is ridiculous. Head deeply deeply buried in sand.

The whole Slow Food movement very literally exists to counter the American presence. A massive movement with people all over the world, founded in Italy to oppose what you say is "completely ignorant." Right.

But no. I'm sure American cultural imperialism is entirely a figment of my imagination. That must be it.

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Aggressive_Form7470 t1_itl2kbu wrote

looks amazing but the mozzarella pearl on the right one is comically small and is cracking me up (as is “nudja”). brilliant post!

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itlejfl wrote

Michelin star = small food 😔

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Aggressive_Form7470 t1_itlw1us wrote

still looks so good!! I’m a heathen though and will always need more cheese even on amazing traditional pizzas like this…

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MR_J0E t1_itlnm5s wrote

I just came back from holiday in Naples this place is amazing they also have the best deep fried pizza in the smaller sorbillo stores and also deep fried pasta which was also amazing !

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pwnyderP28 t1_itmp2mi wrote

I bet this post would have more upvotes if people were looking at it on an empty tummy.

Edit: Also take my upvote

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TrypMole t1_itmxa3q wrote

Nduja is the best. We bring a couple back to the UK when we can get to Calabria. You can get it here now, which is nice but it's not the same. Melty nduja on crusty toast with a drizzle of honey is favourite late night snack. Those pizzas look amazing!

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indolino t1_itkeb98 wrote

Both looking pretty tasty!

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broom-handle t1_itkhhzc wrote

Recently discovered nduja...!

These pizzas look amazing

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OksanaAlberta t1_itlh68f wrote

perfect you ordered a third pizza for me. yummy🤤

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Meegs19 t1_itlrjbq wrote

Wow. Yum. I want a bite of each lol.

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Hobo_Knife t1_itmi9dn wrote

At first I was perturbed by what I thought was a soft boiled I egg in the middle of that pizza. Viva fresh mozzarella

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itmubp1 wrote

May I also offer you a nice egg in these trying times too?

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FudderShudders t1_itktvoh wrote

Let's hope the New Yorkers don't notice

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mp111 t1_itm8q43 wrote

Why? They look good to us too.

Chicago pizzas on the other hand…

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Gods_Apostate t1_itlvu71 wrote

Next time, ask for an n'duja pizza, except also with the salami from a diavola, and fries on top.

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B-Rad1138 t1_ito06hl wrote

That looks so good.

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WHAMMYPAN t1_ito7s4q wrote

Chef here….got COVID and taste buds are a lil off and I stumbled across this so it could ruin my day with it’s deliciousness….thank you. This looks awesome.

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dasaint2020 t1_itudk51 wrote

I do appreciate food, I said cut the pizza...and talk about being toomessy, do they not slice a deep dish Chicago pizza? And I work at a Neapolitan pizza restaurant, it takes 6 minutes from start to finish a pizza, that's rolling, topping, baking it, and slicing it. Then you upcharge because of it's presentation. Cost more for those small ass pies then an average large new York style pie, or the same. I like Neapolitan, I also like finished service. If I see coworkers do this, I call them lazy. Italy is known for these lazy services, they call fancy and home style. It's all bologna.

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itujgqw wrote

Dude, who hurt you? You’re totally wrong about. This. Besides, 6 minutes? Thats far too long to make and cook one of these. I can make and bake one very similar in less that 2 mins

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dasaint2020 t1_itujuo6 wrote

Depends on prep and oven temp...not enough time to like a 10 or less inch pie? On a very simple pizza.

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porkchop_9999 t1_itns9do wrote

One bite…everyone knows the rules.

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dasaint2020 t1_itstepk wrote

Entitled? You're a customer paying for service. Your very entitled for what you paid for. You don't pay for a house to be built, just for you to finish the walls? And yes paying idiots think this shit is fancy. Italy in this argument is the only country not finishing their shit. Famous for it too. Is America the lazy one? People working finish the orders, if they don't they're quoted lazy, incompetent, some times fired. In Italy, this is culture.

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itu23at wrote

Whats not finished? Have you ever eaten a real pizza? Napoli style is not easy to eat with your hand, that’s why you use a knife and fork. It’s the same around the world where they serve this style. You sound entitled.

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dasaint2020 t1_ituaerq wrote

Entitled to the order being finished, sure...paying for it and leaving a tip for a very easy task to not get done. And all pizza is hot. And I can tell you a true new York pizza is a very real, very hot pizza. That they have ready and sliced. You can't tell the service in Italy isn't lazy. Look at the prep of their Sicilian salads.

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succulentchr69 OP t1_ituc53w wrote

New York style pizza is a completely different style. NY style has a base that can stand being held by the crust. Napoli style’s doesn’t. NY uses a lower moisture moz, whereas Napoli uses a higher moisture content. This means the middle is sloppier and has something called ‘pizza soup’ in the middle. It firms up after a few minutes, but if you cut it immediately, you end up with a mess. Hence why then don’t cut it and give you a knife and fork. Sounds like you just have a negative attitude toward shit you don’t agree with on a personal level. If you aren’t on this subreddit to appreciate food for what it is and how its served in each culture, then why are you here? Because I’m sure this Michelin starred restaurant doesn’t need your advice on food presentation.

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Bambulix t1_itlqqnp wrote

Holy Fork.....

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dasaint2020 t1_itlc0fd wrote

Yes waiter, I paid 40 bucks for this pizza. Could you fucking cut it?

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GiovanniResta t1_itlpp5q wrote

In Italy we are not used to have the pizza cut for us (clearly one may ask).

I would be rather disappointed if I was served a pre-cut pizza in a restaurant, because I prefer to cut my pizza in a specific number of slices which also depend on the stiffness of pizza base and weight of the topping.

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dasaint2020 t1_itm8hf9 wrote

....it's pizza

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RedDordit t1_itmkrqk wrote

And it’s up to our customs how the fuck we wanna eat it

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dasaint2020 t1_itmlcrp wrote

Your customs suck

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RedDordit t1_itmlouy wrote

Ok then, you asked for it. Maybe if you had the energy to cut your own food and put it in your mouth by yourself you wouldn’t weigh 300 lbs. go eat a bucket of something, please

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dasaint2020 t1_itmm096 wrote

Never seen a fat Italian?

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RedDordit t1_itmnql2 wrote

You’re seriously comparing 10% with over 40%?

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dasaint2020 t1_itmoav7 wrote

10 percent what? Doing research? Never seen an Italian trying to catch his breath in-between eating a sandwich and wiping his face off with his hand. America is also a larger heavily populated country. (No pun intended). So 10 percent of what population?

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itlf2jw wrote

Not in Naples ma boi. Also this was €12, and it’s the fancy Margherita. Normal is €8.70.

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Tourgott t1_itlrf0w wrote

You have no idea how to eat real Neapolitan pizza, do you?

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dasaint2020 t1_itm8bqs wrote

Who gives a shit how you eat it. Slice the fucking pizza

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RedDordit t1_itmkwpd wrote

Yeah, why not? Why not perpetuating American stereotypes? Nice job

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Tourgott t1_itoxzyv wrote

You CAN'T slice it. This is not an American big shit pizza.

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QuentinVance t1_itlfbsk wrote

Never been in a pizzeria in all of Italy that wasn't a tourist trap where a single pizza costed more than 10€ (talking about the most expensive ones).

And yeah we usually like to cut our own pizzas

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GiovanniResta t1_itlrgzm wrote

There are some places which use fancy ingredients (and a lot of chutzpah) where a pizza can cost much more than 10 euro, see this one for example (not far from where I live).

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QuentinVance t1_itm3rks wrote

We're talking about gourmet here... though yeah, I guess I should have specified I was talking about "normal" places.

EDIT: btw looks like a nice place, shame it's too far from me.

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danidr t1_itlnyjp wrote

And since you’re here, could you chew it for me please?

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alesimula97 t1_itmgajr wrote

It's not a good idea to cut the entire pizza right away, it gets cold way sooner, we never do that in Italy anyways, you can use a fork and a knife can you?

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dasaint2020 t1_itmlnqs wrote

That's a lie, the first slices of pizza kills everyone's mouth

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alesimula97 t1_itn6dk8 wrote

I was obviously talking about the last slices of pizza

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dasaint2020 t1_itnsath wrote

Doesn't every food get cold till the last bite/slice

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alesimula97 t1_itozabj wrote

It gets cold faster = the time taken to get cold decreases

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dasaint2020 t1_itrpxrl wrote

It's gets cold faster the amount of time to cut this shit, instead of having pre sliced and held together

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alesimula97 t1_itsced0 wrote

Dude you have to cut one slice at a time, eat it, then cut another by making a cut right next to that one.

It takes 2 seconds to apply a single cut, it gets colder if you slice it ENTIRELY right away instead of the slice you want to eat, simply because it loses heat faster when it's all sliced up

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dasaint2020 t1_itshiod wrote

How the fuck does that work, as long as the pizza is together and not fanned out and separated it'll stay hot longer no matter how many slices. Not slicing the pizza is just a lazy part of the service. Something real Italian services are known for. Have you seen a Sicilian salad? Nothing cut in that shit. A Neapolitan pizza takes 6 minutes to cook from rolling the pizza to finish. There's not a lot of work to it. This is a laziness to service the customer takes as fancy.

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alesimula97 t1_itslf2w wrote

Is not laziness as it's not laziness to cut the steak for you.

Unless otherwise specified, you're expected to be able bodied and mentally capable of using a fork and a knife and cut your own damn pizza

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dasaint2020 t1_itsnhgf wrote

You paid for service, best pizza restaurants in the world slice your pizza and they stay blazing hot. I guess those pizza restaurants aren't in Italy, with well famous big chefs, not exactly known for making a rush in a kitchen, or low-fat ingredients. Figures they'd make the customer finish the order. And yes I do work at a Neapolitan pizza restaurant. Everything from made scratch.

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alesimula97 t1_itspd14 wrote

First of all not everyone cuts or eats pizza the same way, and "you paid for the service" doesn't mean jack shit.

You paid to sit at the table, and to have your pizza cooked and served, no one guarantees slicing the pizza being part of the service, nor is it written in stone that it has to be. Is it so hard to understand that not everyone wants that service, nor is it standard in certain places to offer it?

It's like I went to a restaurant in Japan and complained there is no bread on my table

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dasaint2020 t1_itsr24x wrote

Now you're comparing Japan's service skills to Italy? The speed and hard workers, working everyday. Hell cutting shit into bite sized pieces where you barely have to chew it? Then they will not except tips. It's near illegal and rude because of the excepted service. America and Italy both take tips, but America actually provides better service. This isn't a debate about side dishes. This is service not finishing the job, The point of restaurants is to rest and reserve with family, friends, or on break from work. Italy makes you think this is fancy...no it's lazy.

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alesimula97 t1_itsseo8 wrote

No, this is not fancy, nor does it pretend to be, this is simply not treating you like an entitled karen or a special needs kid

And I simply compared the difference in service, most restaurants in Italy serve bread on the table, but if I went to a restaurant in Japan and complained of the lack of bread, like you are complaining about an unsliced pizza, I'd be rightfully seen as an i‎d‎io‎t

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succulentchr69 OP t1_itkdrhd wrote

You use a knife a fork in Naples

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GiovanniResta t1_itlpaga wrote

In the rest of Italy as well.

In general we do not care about how people eat pizza. The approach also changes depending on the stiffness of the pizza base and the heavyness of the topping.

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GiovanniResta t1_itlotuy wrote

First of all, in Italy usually they do not cut the pizza for you at the restaurant, unless you ask for it, so you are given a fork and a knive and you are free to cut the pizza as you like it.

Second, here nobody cares how other people eat pizza.

Moreover, pizzas can be very soft in the middle so if the topping is heavy and you try to lift a whole slice the topping can fall making a mess. So a common or at least possible strategy is to eat the pointy part of a slice with fork and knife, then finish using your hands (if you are so inclined).

In general, probably because there is not a developed "dipping culture" (commonal bowls of sauces or melted cheese where people dip things like in US) we are less inclined to make our hands greasy if not really necessary.

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Granadafan t1_itltkz4 wrote

> In general, probably because there is not a developed "dipping culture" (commonal bowls of sauces or melted cheese where people dip things like in US) we are less inclined to make our hands greasy if not really necessary.

While it exists, dipping pizza is not that common in the US either. If there is a dip, it’s usually for the crust.

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Hiphoppington t1_itmns9j wrote

According to my teenage daughter not dipping your slice in ranch should be a crime but I want to stress that she's a teenager and she's got lots of questionable opinions about lots of things.

I'm not against it, it's fine, but it isn't for me.

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GiovanniResta t1_itlvjgu wrote

Yeah, I didn't mean dipping the pizza, but the general idea of using hands to dip things in sauces. I strongly dislike to have greasy hands, maybe because often I read Reddit on the cell If I'm eating alone...

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