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Pope00 t1_j6oq99n wrote

Private schools can have whatever rules they want (within reason obviously). It's like asking why does the military have strict rules. You signed up for the program, you have to follow the rules.

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ScienceIsSexy420 t1_j6oqlw7 wrote

In the US, any private entity can end its relationship with you for any reason, including violating their code of conduct. Government agencies cannot act this way, nor can any public school.

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breckenridgeback t1_j6or0oj wrote

> In the US, any private entity can end its relationship with you for any reason

Well, no, they can't, there are many rules against discrimination by private entities.

It just so happens that most of those rules have loopholes built in for religious beliefs.

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ovirt001 t1_j6or4lg wrote

Private schools are given extreme leniency in how they operate and what they can teach. They can make up whatever rules they wish so long as they don't violate the law.

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C_Wisn OP t1_j6or6hk wrote

That’s what I was thinking!!! Like it just seems discriminatory to me. Like how can it be illegal to deny someone employment based on marriage status and family planning, but an institution you pay for, can kick you out for being pregnant be having a bf?

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stairway2evan t1_j6orepn wrote

Christian colleges are private entities - since they aren't part of the state, they can kick you out any time for any reason. Students who decide to go there (presumably because their religion is very important to them, or because it's cheaper or more prestigious than an alternative school) are choosing to follow the school's rules.

Don't get me wrong, we can certainly argue that a school's policies are draconian, or out of line with what most modern religions allow or expect of their adult members. But that doesn't mean we can stop a school from setting its own rules (within the bounds of the law), and they'll likely keep doing it as long as people are still signing up to go.

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ScienceIsSexy420 t1_j6orojk wrote

No, they absolutely can, except for a few protected reasons. You can refuse service to someone for the attitude, offensive clothing, or because you don't like their face. But you can't do it because you don't like their skin color or sexual orientation. There are some exceptions carved out for religious views, like in the case of sexual orientation, but even the church can't kick you out for your skin color

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ScienceIsSexy420 t1_j6orvnh wrote

No, a private entity can refuse you service for any reason they want, except for a few protected reasons. You can refuse service to someone for the attitude, offensive clothing, or because you don't like their face. But you can't do it because you don't like their skin color or sexual orientation. There are some exceptions carved out for religious views, like in the case of sexual orientation, but even the church can't kick you out for your skin color. So it's a hybrid of religious exceptions, and private entities can be selective

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Red_AtNight t1_j6oryz9 wrote

We have them in Canada too, look up Trinity Western University for example. Our Charter also allows the free exercise of religion, as long as it doesn't violate the Canadian Human Rights Code

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stairway2evan t1_j6os42d wrote

Religious organizations can discriminate (with limits) for religious practices. At least in the US, there's a carveout - for example, a Catholic church can't refuse to hire a priest because he's black, or because he's handicapped, that would still be discrimination... but they can refuse to hire him if he's a Muslim, or if he's a Baptist, or even if he's married, because that directly conflicts with their religion.

But even with that, there's no legal protection of your right to kiss someone, or your right to sleep with someone, at least as far as membership in a club goes. You can't be thrown in jail for kissing someone on your college campus, but they're within their rights to kick you out, if their own rules say you can't do it.

That doesn't mean the rest of us have to like it, or even approve of it, but it's not actual discrimination.

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frenchizal t1_j6ovfk7 wrote

Many colleges are private entities - they can have whatever rules they'd like, and can kick you out for whatever reason they'd like. Many students choose to attend these types of schools because their religious beliefs align with the school's beliefs.

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xshakes t1_j6ozbde wrote

For a lot of the "Religious" schools, it's just another money grab and keeping the student body indoctrination intact.

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throwawaydanc3rrr t1_j6ozqjn wrote

In the United States religious institutions get an exemption from certain employment laws. If the religion says no sex before marriage and a man comes to work at such a place and says "my girdfriend is pregnant!" he can get fired.

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the_digital_merc t1_j6p156p wrote

The “point” of Christian colleges is to collect exorbitantly high private school tuition from wealthy Christian parents who get suckered into thinking they will set their kids up to be better Christians. A secondary purpose is to control the narrative being fed to young developing minds to create more advocates for their interpretation of what it means to be a Christian.

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ScienceIsSexy420 t1_j6p4ab2 wrote

So what that means is that any reason is valid except for the protected reasons. This was contrary to what the person I responded to was saying, which is why I phrased it that way. I'm sorry if you found this confusing or contradictory, but it wasn't meant to be.

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Algur t1_j6p5q21 wrote

> So what that means is that any reason is valid except for the protected reasons.

Correct.

>This was contrary to what the person I responded to was saying, which is why I phrased it that way.

Incorrect. This is in agreement with the person you responded to. It’s contrary to your initial comment.

The issue here is that you made an incorrect statement, were then corrected, then proceeded to say that your initial statement was correct while at the same time agreeing with the correction.

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