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doterobcn t1_iyai6vp wrote

Homicide is the killing of one person by another. This is a broad term that includes both legal and illegal killings. For example, a soldier may kill another soldier in battle, but that is not a crime.

The distinction between an illegal and legal killing is, therefore, the difference between murder and manslaughter.

Murder is a homicide that is the illegal killing of another person

Manslaughter is a homicide that is the unintentional killing of another person

This article has more details.

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Nub0fAllNubs t1_iyaij3a wrote

Yes, I agree but it is not about that. From what I hear homicide is not a crime. Murder/manslaughter are crimes. Because once you commit homicide, it goes down into the subcategories. Is this true?

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doterobcn t1_iyaiyzg wrote

It is about that. You are confusing the definition of a word, versus the legal charges.
Homicide is a word that means killing of another human being.
Similarly, parricide is killing a familiar (usually your parents), or regicide, and so on and so forth.
Those are words with a meaning in the dictionary.

And then you get into the category of what kind of crime.
If you commit homicide but you're a soldier in a war, it is not a crime, but if you commit homicide, voluntarily it is a murder, but it's still homicide.

You're mixing two things.

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Nub0fAllNubs t1_iyak90m wrote

I think I understand now. Homicide is the overall category but you don't get convicted for it. The other three are subcategories that you get convicted for

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CyreneDuVent t1_iyaitgw wrote

According to this site on the criminal code, culpable homicide is the crime, which can then be broken down into murder, manslaughter and infanticide, all of which fall under the crime of culpable homicide

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Inb433 t1_iyaiix2 wrote

I’m not exactly sure what you’re asking, it’s just terminology but they are all crimes. From Wikipedia, in Canada specifically homicide is defined as causing death to another person. The actual crime you are charged with would be called murder, infanticide, or manslaughter depending on what you did. I think most or all countries are the same, homicide means the act of killing someone else and the other three are the actual crime you’d be charged with.

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Nub0fAllNubs t1_iyaj3su wrote

Yeah this is what I wanted to word it as lol. Just wanted to know if homicide is the "illegal" part you get convicted with, or the stuff under the umbrella of homicide.

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[deleted] OP t1_iyaijdz wrote

No, homocide is not a crime in the sense that you can't be sentenced for "homocide", it would be a specifiic type of homocide that you'd be charged with.

It's an overarching term for whenever you kill a human being.

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Mammoth-Mud-9609 t1_iyaj5tq wrote

Homicide is basically the catch all category for killing people, manslaughter like the others is just really a specific type of homicide dependent upon the specific circumstances of the death.

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-WhatCouldGoWrong t1_iyajz7e wrote

homicide is always a crime since its the unlawful kiling of another person, what differs is what can be proven, and what can be prosecuted when it comes to court

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not sure how its legally defined in other countries but in the U.K. it is to do with intent

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did the person wait in a bush outside victim's house, with a gun, and jump out and shoot man when he got home from work (predetermined, intent) (murder)

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or did man get home early from work, walk in on next door neighbour balls deep in his wife (discovered affair), pick up lamp off it's position on bedside table and smash him on the head (in the moment) (manslaughter)

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some countries the manslaughter ting there could even be argued as a crime of passion and wouldn't even be manslaughter

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and then there is also conspiracy, where one mans crime becomes every mans crime (for example gangs)

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you could be sent to prison for murder just for driving a car through the acts of a passenger (for example a shooting drive by, passenger kills man, you were driver, you also are responsible for the crime and therefore cop a murder charge)

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