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farts-_- t1_iua4846 wrote

Reply to comment by enderandrew42 in eli5: What are freemasons and why are there so many conspiracies about them? by SovietCyka756

Why can’t women join? Why do they have to be in a separate women’s version of it?

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JMDStow t1_iua7cu2 wrote

Yes there is a women's Freemasons.

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FuzzAldrin36 t1_iua7xf6 wrote

Yes. The Masonic family branches out quite a bit. Order of the Eastern Star and Order of the Amaranth are two Masonic organizations for both women and men. Girls can join The International Order of the Rainbow for Girls, and boys can join the Order of DeMolay.

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farts-_- t1_iua9mgr wrote

Why do women have to join “branches”? Obviously, people want to join the real deal and not some offshoot.

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FuzzAldrin36 t1_iuacfs5 wrote

But there isn't some real deal and some offshoots. They're all branches. Every one of them.

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TheRidgeAndTheLadder t1_iuaady4 wrote

They're all branches. Shriners, Knights Templar, the list goes on. None is more or less legitimate.

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enderandrew42 t1_iua7db0 wrote

Because that is how it has always been for centuries and if there are common requirements then it unites the members.

There are Masonic groups for women that my wife belongs to.

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senorali t1_iua8a64 wrote

Tell me that isn't the most dogshit excuse on earth. If it was racially segregated for centuries, would that also be okay?

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Boz0r t1_iuacst5 wrote

Doesn't sound like an excuse, just an explanation

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BaconIsAVeg2 t1_iua9ci6 wrote

I mean, it's no different than me not being welcome in a lesbian bar is it?

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senorali t1_iua9ndt wrote

It is very different. The stated goals of the organization have nothing to do with gender, but they discriminate based on gender. It's the sort of thing that makes people believe they're full of shit.

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Bennito_bh t1_iuabjcy wrote

Nah man its not discrimination; the secret initiation involves your dick.

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TheRidgeAndTheLadder t1_iuaaipo wrote

You can disagree with whether it's a goal that should be changed, it's a good conversation to have.

But the goal is specific: "make good men better".

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