Because plastic is very, very popular and seeps into lots of things. Even outside of plastic, with anything that doesn't have proper regulations companies tend to ignore its effects on health because caring about it costs money.

Because basically everything can kill you in a large enough dose. You really can't get too worked up about thus kind of thing, especially those idiotic California Prop 65 warnings that are literally everywhere these days.

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Exactly. What no ones seems to understand is that it' the dose that makes the poison. Even water can kill if you drink too much of it.

The thing about the studies that are done, is that they give extremely large doses to the subjects which is very improbable that a human would consume that quantity.

Thanks for the response, this stemmed from a recent recall on a product I daily used that they found carcenogens in. Which led me to just scraping the surface on other products I use and it was crazy to see how many other products have there own issues. Other than this recent recall I agree with what you said. I’m much more focused on just staying healthy and being mindful and nothing more.

I figured the FDA always stopped harmful items coming to the market but it seems as if they turn a blind eye quite often

I agree but I’d rather die from something more exciting than eating a turkey sandwhich everyday for lunch😂

>Even water can kill if you drink too much of it.

This is true! Arsenic's lethal dose is much, much lower than water's, but I guess they're both just poison at the right dose so they must be the same thing.

Harmful is cheaper. Sometimes it just is a choice between "do we let this harmful thing feed everyone on the cheap, or do we let them starve"

Sometimes we only find out much later that something we thought was OK is actually harmful. Also a key element is quantity. Something in the ppm range may not cause harm, while the same thing in the percent range could. Plus the FDA doesn't regulate everything.

That’s fair. I never once ate ramen noodles and thought they were good for my organs

That’s true, only a couple generations ago babies were sleeping in lead paint cribs

California passed a stupid law that requires any product to label it self as potentially cancer causing if it has carcinogens, no matter how miniscule of an amount may be present. Since it's too complicated and expensive to relabel only the stuff going to Cali, they just put the warning on everything no matter what state it goes too. The result it everyone now thinks everything will give them cancer.

Came to mention 65. It's maddening. There's a sign on the wall near my outside mailbox kiosk thing. "This area may contain..." Can you be more specific? Is there something I should be looking out for? Are you just telling me not to eat the plants or chew on the stucco? Whatever good intention there may have been has been obliterated by people putting these warnings on everything to cover their asses.

The bar for getting a new chemical into products is low. Basically it just has to not immediately and obviously kill you or cause a disease. There’s no mandatory testing for whether something might cause cancer after a few years of use.

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But seriously, it's mind boggling the dumb crap they'll force a prop 65 sticker on. A thing completely unrelated to food could be made in a machine that has had certain parts washed with benzene, and then boom. Every single thing that gets made by the machine needs a sticker.

Fortunately I do not lol. I always had a feeling those were excessive. The first set of brake pads I ever did had the label and I just assumed not to sit there and chew on them and carried on

Actually the more that I think about it I might actually like Prop 65, because it dilutes the public perception of carcinogens!

If you wanted an all-natural lifestyle, you'd have to live in a cave and kill your dinner with a club. Even then, the smoke from the cooking fire might get you.

Another thing to realize is that when something increases your risk of getting cancer by let’s say 2% that’s not 2% of the general population. That’s a 2% more of the cancer population. The risk of cancer varies by age. If your under 20 years old the risk is about 25 out if 100,000. Or 0.025% chance. If your above 60 it’s about 1,000 in 100,000 or 1% chance. A 2% increase in the 60+ group is only 1.02 % chance of cancer in the general population.

Why are the options "unhealthy" and "all natural"? What makes "all natural" inherently healthy, or man-made inherently unhealthy? As far as I can tell, half the things in nature would fuck up a human if we ate them, so I don't think the divide is where you think it is.

Nobody bothers to count that. How long would it take before we noticed that carrots were as dangerous as cigarettes if they were?

Boy I’m glad I don’t live in California, I’d have cancer for sure by now!

It’s due to bad laws and information,

There is no set threshold or measure, all we get is “can” or “cannot” give cancer. And to be fair, bottle water can give you cancer.

The point missing in our information system and regulation system, is to give a measure to it. Like, bottle water causes cancer but it would take maybe 500 years on average to develop one. If you are still alive at 100+ years, I bet back pain is still a bigger issue than water cancer.

Whatever you cook until brown/black Is cancerous. But how much? If you eat overcooked steaks only, you will still die of other complications before colon cancer. You need to strike a good balance of bad food and good food to live long enough to care about colon cancer, then worse case it’s still less likely than a car crash.

So, ok, things can harm you, you should avoid them, but the information is a bit on the clickbait/boogeyman side. Which helps no one to make good decisions.

For comparison, something cancerous like asbestos, has a cancer rate of 10% of the people working sometimes with it, and almost 100% of the people working with asbestos the entire life AND being smokers. That’s pretty scary.

Cigarettes alone are not reaching a 30% cancer rate. In a lifetime.

Alcohol gives other life threats well before reaching cancer level.

Steaks? Way less a killer than air pollution.

You should worry about steaks a bit less than getting a flu or malaria. idk you, but I don’t wake up in the morning thinking “I’m gonna die if I get a flu”

Well, this is supposedly a market based economy, so some problems develop when the cheapest way might not be the safest way for the consumer. Worry? Try to remember than human existence is just a temporary gig for consciousness.

thanks for the explanation