TotallynottheCCP t1_j5mzws9 wrote
As a guy who prefers an affordable supercab truck with 6.5' box, I fucking hate how everything is moving to $75,000 limousines with a tiny half box.
KerPop42 t1_j5n3dks wrote
As someone who's never used a truck, why do you prefer them? My jetta can fit a twin mattress in the back, and I've hauled 8' lumber with the trunk closed before. The higher wheelbase makes sense for camping I guess, but like the 4runner can do that just as well.
I feel like unless you expect to have stuff overflowing the top and sides, having an external bed without access to the folding seats makes you lose capacity.
I mean, hell, my parent's town and country, with all the seats folded flat, was basically a UHaul van in capacity.
TotallynottheCCP t1_j5n6bzv wrote
Truth be told, I'd prefer a smaller truck. Like a Maverick size, but with a shorter cab and longer box. And RWD. And a V8. But since nobody makes such a thing, I have to settle for what I have.
Yes, a minivan could probably haul MOST of whatever I'd ever need to haul in my truck, but minivans are FWD and uh....don't look as good as an F-150. Now, vans DO exist that have RWD and lots of cargo space, but they're not any smaller than my truck nor do they look as good.
If a guy could get a RWD, 350hp+ V8, midsized SUV/CUV with 8 full feet of length behind the front seats and a nice flat load floor with rear seats folded down that also looked good, all for a reasonable price, I'd be all over it.
Edit: As it turns out, the new Ford Explorer actually is RWD AND it seems to be able to fit a full sheet of plywood behind the front seats. And it can be had in either 365hp or 400hp forms. It's just not a V8:( Very impressive nevertheless.
FuzzyBucks t1_j5pflt3 wrote
why do you care about a V8? if power and torque are sufficient, why does engine volume matter?
TotallynottheCCP t1_j5rbvoh wrote
V8 indicates a configuration, not displacement/volume. And to answer your question, it's the sound of a V8 that I crave. Even if it's smaller and maybe less powerful.
FuzzyBucks t1_j5s0amh wrote
Yes, you right about V8. They also do tend to have greater displacement than engines with fewer cylinders.
I can't say I value the engine note that much. Certainly not enough to outweigh a difference in efficiency, power, or price. I'd be perfectly happy with something like a Subaru boxer engine.
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FuzzyBucks t1_j5phwu2 wrote
>Can’t beat trucks because the box is open. If your Jetta had an open bed instead of truck/back seats it would be legit even with its small size.
What are your thoughts on the Hyundai Santa Cruz?
>Where I live delivery is not an option, if I ever want to buy any furniture I kinda have to have a truck.
Would you be open to renting a truck or van the 1 day per year you need to fit something large?
I've personally driven compact cars my enter life and then just rent or borrow a truck whenever I need one, which isn't very often. Compact cars are crazy cheap to operate compared to a pickup which more than makes up for the cost of renting a truck.
my next car will be a larger sedan so that I have room in the back seat for passengers/kids. Maybe something like a Volvo V90 CrossCountry or a VW Arteon.
The fact that I can get a fully spec'd 300HP full-size upscale hatchback(the Arteon) for almost $10,000 cheaper than the cheapest bare bones full-cab F150 makes me think people have absolutely lost their minds to be choosing modern pickup trucks as their commuter/grocery getter.
The marketing departments at the truck companies have been doing a bang-up job tapping into emotion and aspiration in order to get people to spend so much money
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FuzzyBucks t1_j5plss6 wrote
Gotcha - I think you're not the sort of person driving this trend in the pickup market then haha. my most spendy car purchase was a new Mazda 3 that I still drive a decade later and plan to drive for a few more years, so I'm not responsible for the trend either.
you are using pickups in a way that makes more sense to me, though i.e. as a tool that does a job.
I can see owning a pickup truck in that scenario, though to me it would be a 'necessary evil' or last resort because my preference would be to continue having a smaller/cheaper car if I can somehow avoid having to buy a pickup truck.
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>We worked out the math for this, and with the added hassle of renting, and very minimal price differences, it didn’t seem worth it for us personally.
^I'm lucky in this regard because the closest car/truck rentals are about as close to me as the closest grocery stores(~1 mile down a collector road) so it's not a big inconvenience.
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