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N0MN0MCH0MPCH0MP t1_j5jgq9p wrote

Musk isn’t a founder…Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning are the founders

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NintendogsWithGuns t1_j5k451s wrote

Yeah, but he made them list him as a founder when he joined. Not an actual founder, but legally speaking he has the title.

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GuyFlawles t1_j5k9u2a wrote

Personally, when somebody says founder, I take it to mean 'somebody who founded something.' By this definition, Musk is not a founder. Just because he managed to wrangle himself the title doesn't change the reality

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NintendogsWithGuns t1_j5kcc34 wrote

I agree with that statement. I’m just saying he managed to claim that title for himself, which explains why he’s often introduced as such and thus ends up on lists like this

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Spacey42069 t1_j5kf1sr wrote

When those two blokes started Tesla, all they had was a name. It wanst even a company.

They weren't even registered. He got a headquarters for them. Elon was there when the first car was built. He put half of his money he got from paypal and built it from scratch.

If that doesn't makes you a founder idk what will.

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PedanticMath t1_j5kojwq wrote

So is every initial investor a founder? I think the disconnect is between the definitions of the guys who dreamed it up, and the guy who took a chance and bankrolled it.

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Sweaty_Chair_4600 t1_j5kwxy9 wrote

In physics, sometimes a person who makes an accidental discovery gets a Nobel but the person who came up with the theory before the accident doesn't.

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PedanticMath t1_j5l7wl3 wrote

I’m not sure how the Nobel committee compares to how you define the roll of investment capital in this context. I was highlighting that a personal belief in the value of that role often determines how you frame it.

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Spacey42069 t1_j5ktsre wrote

just dreaming it doesnt make you a founder. those arent the definitions of founder.

redditors should learn to see the reasoning behind their Elon hate boner

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cippopotomas t1_j5l8srx wrote

>a person who establishes an institution or settlement.

It's actually the literal fucking definition haha. Maybe you should learn to see the reasoning beyond your Elon love boner.

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Ravmagn t1_j5m7pz8 wrote

If he isn’t listed as a founder with registration authorities, he isn’t a founder legally speaking.

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TechnicalVegetable42 t1_j5klsuh wrote

Musk doesn't found anything. He finds all kinds of shit and makes people say he created it.

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mdog73 t1_j5o2vpf wrote

Someone’s jealous.

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TechnicalVegetable42 t1_j5oivcp wrote

Sure I'm jealous of anyone who's never ever had to worry about money in their life. He isn't going to give you any of his money for standing up for him, by the way.

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Spacey42069 t1_j5l9ckg wrote

Elon is a shitty person but what you are saying is pure bs.

He never said he created anything in tesla.

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Whistlepig-junction t1_j5m3xxe wrote

Came to say this. The musk fan boys want you to forget this fact.

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count-the-churros t1_j5pfiyw wrote

Warren buffet didn't found berkshire hathaway, but it would be completely forgotten if it wasnt for him. Same for tesla and musk.

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porgy_tirebiter t1_j5nnbxj wrote

He may not have been born a founder, but he identifies as one. Who are we to judge?

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frpranon t1_j5msorq wrote

The company was found in 2003, Musk entered in 2004.

He is a fundamental part of Telsa history and he is legally a founder and was CEO for most of the company years.

People just hating for no reason.

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theoriginalshadilay t1_j5jvs01 wrote

Looks really neat! Would be interesting too see voting-rights aswell!

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Dj_KW t1_j5lynf9 wrote

Odds are most if not all their shares are preferred stocks so they’d have a higher percentage in voting rights!!

Edit: Class A stocks not preferred stocks

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Caspi7 t1_j5mbcp8 wrote

Doesn't Zuckerberg have more then 50% voter rights?

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formicatile t1_j5ml9nb wrote

Just under 54.5% as of Meta’s 2022 filing, which doesn’t include another 2.5% of proxy voting power.

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Mynabird_604 t1_j5mw1ok wrote

Preferred stock usually has no voting rights, just a greater claim on assets and dividends. Typically Class A shares would have more voting rights than other shares in a dual-class structure.

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Dj_KW t1_j5mw6i9 wrote

You are right!! Don’t tell my finance professor! I meant tos at Class A 😂

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windigo3 t1_j5n7129 wrote

Larry Ellison owns 42.9% of Oracle

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Ripstikerpro t1_j5lmeta wrote

Huh, this data is actually beautiful, nicely done!

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Tomox_V t1_j5k5gue wrote

Nicely done with the stacked bars!

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JulianWels t1_j5lxopp wrote

"The more GPUs you buy, the more money you save"

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nemanjoza946 t1_j5tj2v5 wrote

Elon Musk is not a founder of Tesla

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LeverageShares OP t1_j5jgljd wrote

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Square_Tea4916 t1_j5koa0e wrote

I like the idea, but bit selective in which companies you show. I’d put in a note that it was select founders (based on X).

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josriley t1_j5ncmcp wrote

TIL the guy who put all the Hastings videos stores in my area out of business was Hastings.

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New_Acanthaceae709 t1_j5ph96e wrote

Should probably also include Schmidt for Google, who has another 1%.

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bolteon593 t1_j5sdqb7 wrote

All that work to own so little.

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Carnage4freestuff t1_j5n2sqh wrote

Bro, Jack Ma was murdered by the CCP and replaced by a look alike. Change my mind.

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Insis18 t1_j5nm45q wrote

Musk wasn't a founder of Tesla.

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