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Alternative-Flan2869 t1_j5bcvh1 wrote

Reply to comment by BobRussRelick in How Covid-19 vaccines succeeded in saving a million US lives, in charts by ILikeNeurons

The vaccine prevented serious hospitalization and/or death. New Zealand handled that vax advantage with proper masks correctly, and to date has only 2437 covid deaths! (US has 1,111,004 covid deaths.)

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BobRussRelick t1_j5be1u2 wrote

correlation is not causation sorry, Africa had minimal vaccination or masking and also low covid deaths

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coffeesharkpie t1_j5bflc0 wrote

Are you seriously comparing the US to Africa? Just look at stats of mean age, obesity, climate, time spent outside, and those immunsystems hardend by things like malary...

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BobRussRelick t1_j5bljdf wrote

exactly my point with New Zealand

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coffeesharkpie t1_j5bzuc7 wrote

While I see your point and agree with it mostly. One could still make a case that at least in some key metrics like average age, life expectancy, physicians per 1000 inhabitants NZ and the USA are rather similar. While e.g. the average South African is roughly 10 years younger (38 vs 28 yrs)...

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dog_eat_god t1_j5cuuoz wrote

New Zealand is an unfair comparison because the initial variations of COVID and their higher mortality rates never got there. Better to compare the US to Canada or any number of Western European countries that actually had to deal with COVID from the beginning. Not saying the US did well, just that there are better comparisons.

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Alternative-Flan2869 t1_j5dgohm wrote

It is a more than valid leadership comparison. For example, at the very beginning of covid our “president” ordered US sailors to not be let off their ship to receive covid treatment, leading to unnecessary contraction/sicknesses and preventable deaths. And why? He condemned them to sickness and death to ‘keep down the numbers.’

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