Submitted by dcp2120 t3_10cq8kp in dataisbeautiful
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Inariameme t1_j4joe82 wrote
Oh, I see,, how about, "Is this inflation?"
Glittering-Tax-5860 t1_j4kwm4e wrote
Because it doesn't? One isn't caused by the other, both are a result of stability within the Congo government and the fact reddit's favorite African dictator Paul Kugame was told by the int. community he cannot occupy Eastern Congo for resource extraction and Hutu massacres.
Dutchwells t1_j4h6hy8 wrote
This sub is just boring graphs now xd
Blue__Agave t1_j4ij83i wrote
Yeah it used to be creative and unique ways of showing data.
Now it's just clickbait tables that could be made in excel with no link to the data or context
[deleted] t1_j4ixddo wrote
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Axio3k t1_j4ip4xd wrote
Well the town of Cobalt Ontario is opening a refinery in the next few years so hopefully that helps
jakubkonecki t1_j4i7mce wrote
Any particular reason why the Y axis for Gross Domestic Product doesn't start at 0, apart from trying to artificially align two series?
algernon132 t1_j4ja64e wrote
They're clearly correlated and not every graph needs to start at y=0.
dcp2120 OP t1_j4h258t wrote
Data on GDP was collected from the World Bank and cobalt extraction data from the USGS Minerals yearbook. Tools used: python, seaborn.
This chart comes from my personal blog: https://www.thedatachunk.com/p/quarry-quandary on the topic of the cobalt supply chain
ialghamdi1 t1_j4hyd3h wrote
Nice work
[deleted] t1_j4h5qz8 wrote
All that child slavery and death for your 'green' ev battery.
DM_me_ur_tacos t1_j4h99nh wrote
Good point, because large petroleum exporting countries are super ethical
Calikettlebell t1_j4jyzy6 wrote
Good response. What About this and that? It justifies slavery to mine cobalt for your batteries. Bad things happen everywhere so slavery is just fine
ialghamdi1 t1_j4hyewo wrote
Two wrongs don’t make right
DM_me_ur_tacos t1_j4i3u26 wrote
You're right.
And I am certainly not endorsing the congo.
But the people who come out of the woodwork to make these arguments usually are not sincere.
Suddenly they care about unethical child labor in the Congo. Suddenly they care about birds getting killed by windmills. Suddenly they care about the environmental impact of mining lithium.
Bullshit.
They don't sincerely care about those things. Otherwise they would object to all the other unethical labor practices in the world. Otherwise they would seek to protect endangered species in oil rich habitats. Otherwise they would object to toxic mining practices used to extract coal and oil.
Dudelison t1_j4ibmu8 wrote
I remember when this was an anti Apple argument, because of laptop batteries. People are just now coming out of the woodwork to complain about things from the EV and green angle, but didn't see these people cry out for the birds when we talked about cat registration and castration where I live, only when it was a thing with windmills did bird lives suddenly matter. Same with EV, cobalt is used in oil and gas refineries, but there it isn't recyclable.
Laffs t1_j4j2jp1 wrote
Do you have a better solution?
Clearly if we have to pick between petroleum and cobalt, cobalt is a better option, no?
[deleted] t1_j4ha3h8 wrote
Dont know any oil companies that enslave children to use their tiny little hands. Blood diamonds where a thing. So is blood cobalt.
DM_me_ur_tacos t1_j4i4d9i wrote
Lol, do you know how Saudi Arabia treats women, homosexuals, journalists, and apostates?
mynameismy111 t1_j4jy9ii wrote
Those that complain about green energy typically hate those groups too...
alc4pwned t1_j4jksey wrote
You wouldn't unless Joe Rogan does an episode on it, right
GrowingHeadache t1_j4jwc7g wrote
Just read up for example the operations of Shell in Nigeria. Blood oil definitely exists as well.
And I sleep a lot better knowing that the cobalt is going to kill a lot fewer people than the oil
alc4pwned t1_j4jl67f wrote
And for basically all consumer electronics. I assume you plan on ditching all your phones, laptops, etc because you care so much about this?
mynameismy111 t1_j4jy5sm wrote
Venn diagram of those who wave confederate flags and hate green energy would be pretty telling I imagine
IMSOGIRL t1_j4monob wrote
Their literacy rates follow a few years after Cobalt production. So the less cobalt they mine, the less educated they get.
It's the same thing in every country: India, China, etc. The more money they make, the more education and higher quality of life they have, and the faster they can stop doing whatever you don't want them to do and move on to doing stuff like innovating.
Somehow I think people like you don't want Africans to get educated at all so you'll still hate it.
kingofwale t1_j4i982i wrote
45 billion…. I’m sure the government will be able to use that fund effectively to combat poverty and low rate of education…..
jbrux86 t1_j4ix74b wrote
A few ppl are getting very rich and the rest are in slavery till death.
Any big company that uses batteries lie to the public when they say their supply chains are clean.
zerovian t1_j4jegyh wrote
now tie it to chocolate production.
pleiotropycompany t1_j4j5h8y wrote
Even with the weird axes issue (not going to zero for both) this looks like the DRC has undiversified their GDP at their peril (i.e., they have probably contracted Dutch Disease).
rug1998 t1_j4hkxg7 wrote
People in this sub are like correlation doesn’t mean causation