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DM_me_ur_tacos t1_j4h99nh wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in [OC] Cobalt Extraction in the Democratic Republic of the Congo by dcp2120

Good point, because large petroleum exporting countries are super ethical

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Calikettlebell t1_j4jyzy6 wrote

Good response. What About this and that? It justifies slavery to mine cobalt for your batteries. Bad things happen everywhere so slavery is just fine

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ialghamdi1 t1_j4hyewo wrote

Two wrongs don’t make right

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DM_me_ur_tacos t1_j4i3u26 wrote

You're right.

And I am certainly not endorsing the congo.

But the people who come out of the woodwork to make these arguments usually are not sincere.

Suddenly they care about unethical child labor in the Congo. Suddenly they care about birds getting killed by windmills. Suddenly they care about the environmental impact of mining lithium.

Bullshit.

They don't sincerely care about those things. Otherwise they would object to all the other unethical labor practices in the world. Otherwise they would seek to protect endangered species in oil rich habitats. Otherwise they would object to toxic mining practices used to extract coal and oil.

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Dudelison t1_j4ibmu8 wrote

I remember when this was an anti Apple argument, because of laptop batteries. People are just now coming out of the woodwork to complain about things from the EV and green angle, but didn't see these people cry out for the birds when we talked about cat registration and castration where I live, only when it was a thing with windmills did bird lives suddenly matter. Same with EV, cobalt is used in oil and gas refineries, but there it isn't recyclable.

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Laffs t1_j4j2jp1 wrote

Do you have a better solution?

Clearly if we have to pick between petroleum and cobalt, cobalt is a better option, no?

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[deleted] t1_j4ha3h8 wrote

Dont know any oil companies that enslave children to use their tiny little hands. Blood diamonds where a thing. So is blood cobalt.

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DM_me_ur_tacos t1_j4i4d9i wrote

Lol, do you know how Saudi Arabia treats women, homosexuals, journalists, and apostates?

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mynameismy111 t1_j4jy9ii wrote

Those that complain about green energy typically hate those groups too...

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alc4pwned t1_j4jksey wrote

You wouldn't unless Joe Rogan does an episode on it, right

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GrowingHeadache t1_j4jwc7g wrote

Just read up for example the operations of Shell in Nigeria. Blood oil definitely exists as well.

And I sleep a lot better knowing that the cobalt is going to kill a lot fewer people than the oil

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