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YachtingChristopher t1_j61cfq1 wrote

Sad that nuclear could have filled that whole chart 30 years ago.

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Potato_Octopi t1_j6201jp wrote

Kind of doubt we'd have great EVs 30 years ago.

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YachtingChristopher t1_j621v9g wrote

What does that have to do with this chart or nuclear power?

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Potato_Octopi t1_j62bo80 wrote

A lot of the petroleum is for transport. Not much is electricity generation.

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InterPunct t1_j61kc3l wrote

Sad, but no doubt it will prevail. Makes economic and practical sense.

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KittyBizkit t1_j61lycm wrote

But not political sense. Too many NIMBY folks who are scared of nuclear power because they don’t understand it or overestimate the dangers involved. Coal kills more people every year than nuclear, but most people are far more afraid of nuclear.

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InterPunct t1_j61oxjg wrote

>but most people are far more afraid of nuclear.

Godzilla, after all.

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fortnitefunnies3 t1_j61p04h wrote

It’s not that far fetched of a fear

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KittyBizkit t1_j61qbiw wrote

Except when you compare it against coal emissions. Coal kills more people per kilowatt generated by a wide margin.

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gabotuit t1_j63t6o1 wrote

Because of the big number bias… wait until you get a couple hundred nuclear reactors and the compounded effects of little accidents and the very long term effects

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fortnitefunnies3 t1_j61qdj9 wrote

Well yeah but nuclear fallout is bad

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eddy_talon t1_j61wvjw wrote

Nuclear fallout comes from nuclear detonations. Power plants don't have the capacity to make nuclear detonations.

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fortnitefunnies3 t1_j61x2ca wrote

I’m a proponent of nuclear power too. I’m just trying to explain the opposition

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KittyBizkit t1_j62305m wrote

From the sounds of it, you ARE the opposition.

I think this is kinda like people who are afraid of flying because of plane crashes. But realistically you are far more likely to die in a car crash in the way to the airport than in a plane crash after you get there.

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KittyBizkit t1_j61svgi wrote

This is exactly what I am talking about. People like you vastly overestimate the dangers and probability of them.

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crimeo t1_j621w6k wrote

There is no such thing as nuclear fallout from civilian power plants.... so say wha?

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crimeo t1_j621r55 wrote

Literally more people per megawatt have died from even SOLAR from things like falling off their roof installing panels than from all non military nuclear damage.

For coal, its orders of magnitude worse

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tinainthebar t1_j62y5fh wrote

That's an interesting claim, certainly believable if you look at direct deaths (which globally is probably under 100 - almost entirely from Chernobyl, especially if you count Kyshtym as military).

I'd love to see the source

Estimating, and attributing things like cancer correctly (reduction in life span and life quality) from things like construction and dismantling, uranium mining, etc is trickier.

On the other hand so is the mining for the metals needed for solar, and the construction risk per kWh I would guess are orders of magnitude higher for solar (especially rooftop solar)

I'm sure both are dwarfed by the impact from oil, gas and coal though.

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crimeo t1_j64gw0c wrote

I figured it all out on reddit but it seems to be > the max 1,000 comments ago :(

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