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RegionDowntown1474 t1_ix41r2d wrote

Ok, but couldn’t the number of deaths in 2020 be unusually high because of COVID?

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BigBruhMoment22 t1_ix4ecka wrote

is that the main thing you took from this? covid statistics? not thousands of migrant workers deaths even a decade before covid?

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Just_a_Guy_In_a_Tank t1_ix4ljb7 wrote

No, they’re asking legitimate questions instead of just taking something at face value like a well-trained sheep.

Two things can be true at the same time:

Qatar can be a country that takes advantage of and provides an unsafe work environment for its migrant workers

And

More migrant workers died in Qatar in 2020 due to COVID, much like more people in nearly every country died due to COVID.

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Skinny-Fetus t1_ix4kynw wrote

Ya true. It was truly shocking to hear migrant workers are not immortal. What do you think the mere existence of worker deaths show?

You'd have to show they were higher than non migrant workers or something to make any argument

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youngsyr t1_ix4ned6 wrote

Deaths from what cause? Could be work accidents, could be cancer. This graph doesn't tell us that.

There are over 2 million migrant workers in Qatar I believe. 1 death for every 2,000 people in a given year isn't particularly high. About 1 in 15,000 people commit suicide in the UK each year, for comparison.

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RegionDowntown1474 t1_ix4rnlf wrote

Can’t believe I have to say this, but no, COVID stats was not the main thing I took away from this graph. Migrant worker deaths are terrible, both before and after the World Cup announcement. I’m not watching the WC because of the human rights issues, and I’ve said so elsewhere. As someone who takes data seriously and critically analyzes it, I find the lack of acknowledgment that a global pandemic might have affected the data disingenuous.

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BigBruhMoment22 t1_ix56uoj wrote

i see, that’s a fair response and i completely understand, i apologise for my previous comment as it definitely was more aggressively worded than i initially intended, unfortunately you still find nowadays a fair few people that’ll use COVID as an excuse to ignore a larger issue or necessarily the topic at hand and i guess seeing your comment i assumed it was along those lines. although assuming just makes an ass out of u and me and i apologise

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RegionDowntown1474 t1_ix5cjgn wrote

Thanks. I really appreciate this and think I could’ve been more clear in my original comment too. Have a good one.

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zeelbeno t1_ix6a0yc wrote

Didn't realise migrants were supposed to be immortal and have no deaths.

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MagicCarpetBomb t1_ix4pywc wrote

Yeah. It’s correlated or it isnt. It’s a thing that happened.

Weird fucking soapbox you got there.

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MindSecurity t1_ix5nw0b wrote

Name checks out. Everyone give this guy a break, he just found out people aren't immortal. He needs a moment, and a helmet. He probably doesn't even know that migrants make up a beyond large majority of their population like 85% or something like that. Qatar is an absolute horror show for humanitarian reasons, but at least get proper angry instead of angry at graphs that take things out of context.

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