sifterandrake t1_ivwot0x wrote on November 11, 2022 at 4:00 AM

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The problem is that the left can't even agree on what it thinks socialism is. You have your hard left people that want to completely tear down the system and make the government in charge of all the means of production so that they can distribute the profits accordingly to the people. Then you have the more moderate left that wants things like socialized healthcare, better public education financing, social security expanses, etc... Except, that's not actually "Socialism" as an "economic model..." That's just welfare, and welfare can certainly be a part of capitalism.

LouSanous t1_ivws3fr wrote on November 11, 2022 at 4:30 AM

That "moderate left", Democratic socialism, is not left at all, but a centrist position. The world is so right heavy that people think that maintaining a softer version of capitalism is "left". It takes advantage of the emotional value of the word socialism, but never seeks to end capitalism.

The left is strictly anti-capitalist. Full stop. That includes MLs (maoists, dengists, Stalinists, and orthodox maxist-leninists and some smaller variants) and anarchists. One of those groups is very clear about what socialism is and the other isn't socialist at all. Both believe in an end goal of communism with radically different ideas of how it can be achieved.