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mikeholczer t1_ivo3n5e wrote

Does grey mean zero or about 80?

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lucpz t1_ivodrod wrote

It means op shouldn't use a divergent color scale for data that is not divergent

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Free_Albatross3928 OP t1_ivoa2qn wrote

Grey means it is not mentioned in the document, therefore officially it is not part of the Apple supply chain.

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mikeholczer t1_ivohc8a wrote

But grey is also the middle of your scale. Why is the scale blue to grey to red instead of just one color that gets darker?

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Free_Albatross3928 OP t1_ivp4jlc wrote

Because I didn't think to change the default scale, I might look to change it based on this feedback though.

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mikeholczer t1_ivpawgq wrote

Sounds good. If there was a county with a value of 80, wouldn’t it be grey as it is.

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maugust09 t1_ivo455z wrote

No surprise here that China is a powerhouse for electronics 🤷‍♂️

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Lightweight_Hooligan t1_ivo4cbo wrote

Powerhouse for near slave labour

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maugust09 t1_ivo4oeu wrote

Even in the US we have minimum wage which just translates to the lowest wage possibly paid by an employer before it's slave labor. And when you have someone working 3 of those jobs to make rent/buy food... isn't it basically slave labor anyways? Maybe indentured servitude is a better term.

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Lightweight_Hooligan t1_ivo5w1n wrote

The iPhone would cost about $20k if it was 100% made in America with American $7/h minimum wage workers

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maugust09 t1_ivo6pa4 wrote

On the contrary side... imagine how cheap your burgers would be if we used slave labor techniques... instead I need to make some $7/hr worker make me a $15 McDonald's meal that would cost them 2 hrs of work to purchase themselves.

I'm not at all saying you're wrong. But slave labor is justtttttttt about everywhere, even if they call it things like 'minimum wage'.

Read up (if you haven't already) on the early Banana Republic and how those people were treated just for the US to get bananas.

This applies to all global industries... someone is getting exploited for someone else's benefit.

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Mekito_Fox t1_ivqjwz3 wrote

McDonald's actually pays $10 minimum as a company policy. And locally their crap burgers cost $6-8. And they get emoloyee discounts (50٪ off or free meal). Just pointing that out.

Source: husband was a shift manager until recently

Edit: added discount info

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maugust09 t1_ivqlw0d wrote

Totally fair! I just think people tend to glorify the American work force and don't really understand how most of that labor is treated.

I've worked in the food service industry for just over 15 years from washing dishes to managing the grocery department of a $1mil/week store and it's pretty shitty all around despite doing pretty well for myself.

Just my experience/opinion!

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Mekito_Fox t1_ivqn1ni wrote

Agreed, I'm just a little sensitive about minimum wage discussion specifically involving McDonald's as a base. Mostly because it's usually erroneous and most federal minimum wage discussion does not include local cost of living.

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Lightweight_Hooligan t1_ivohbko wrote

Good luck driving to China just to get a few $ discount off a burger

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maugust09 t1_ivohydg wrote

I am fortunate enough to be able to afford to pay borderline slave labor workers to cook shitty burgers they can barely afford themselves

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daviberto t1_ivqm4ey wrote

You shouldn’t use a divergent color scheme for a continuously increasing value. Plus the grey seems to be in the scale.

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Consistent_Pitch782 t1_ivro3m9 wrote

Is OP suggesting Trillion dollar companies aren’t being honest with us? 🫢

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Free_Albatross3928 OP t1_ivoab2c wrote

Data source: https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-Supplier-List.pdf Program used: https://app.datawrapper.de/select/map

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LittleJerkDog t1_ivsrrnc wrote

What are you referring to regarding DRC? A quick search finds recent info that Apple cut off suppliers sourcing from DRC. Your source also appears to be direct suppliers only so there would be an absence if they don't have direct suppliers in DRC.

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Free_Albatross3928 OP t1_ivswgtu wrote

An off-the-record source told me that their company did not declare doing business with comapnies in the DRC because the fine (usually around 10,000 USD but varies of course) was easier to pay than dealing with the fallout from dealing with what is in reality for the most part a very corrupt government and therefore by listing a company in the DRC one was essentially admitting to paying bribes to the DRC government. Again, that is off-the-record so the source cannot be quoted directly or revealed but I have reason to trust in its validity which is studies of other companies (those involved in cobalt and coltan mining for example) in which case there were absolutely bribes taking place.

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sig_figs_2718 t1_ivstleu wrote

Interesting graph, but I have some questions regarding OP's title of registered company. For example, Pegatron and Foxconn are companies headquartered in Taiwan, but the source doesn't list headquarters location but only lists multiple "primary manufacturing locations" for each company such mainland China, Japan, Brazil, etc. Does this then mean that a single company are counted in multiple countries? Or are only the country of the headquarters counted? Or the country of where they are registered?

Thanks for sharing the graph and especially the source, which is fascinating.

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MainSqueeeZ t1_ivsmmpo wrote

iPhones haven't had batteries in years. If they did, we'd be able to open the back to change it out when it runs down! Some people.....

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