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Dont____Panic OP t1_ivdjr8v wrote

Made in Excel.

Data Sources are for UNITED STATES ONLY

Conclusion: Data shows that housing prices have risen to historically high levels (even by CPI adjustment) but the "monthly cost" of these mortgages remained within a narrow band from 1995 until 2021 and historically high monthly payments (inflation adjusted) for a mortgages occurred during the 1980s, although rapidly increasing rates in 2022 has also spiked mortgage payments.

Affordability of mortgage payments was quite good on a "monthly payments" basis in the USA until a few months ago.

However increasing purchase prices require higher down payments. This significantly affects "affordability" of mortgages, even when monthly payments are within reach of median income earners.

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MocoMojo t1_ivees7a wrote

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but when the red solid line crosses above the green shaded area, should that make us worried folks can’t afford their mortgage payments?

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ThePandaRider t1_ives3l3 wrote

The average person will struggle making mortgage payments on the average house going forward. Keep in mind that only people who bought in the period where the red line is above the green shaded area are in trouble. Everyone who bought when the red line was below, which is most people, should be alright as long as they are on a fixed rate loan. When the orange dotted line crosses the green area housing is likely to be overvalued.

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Dont____Panic OP t1_ivf1w9k wrote

When the red line is above the green, that just means the median person can’t afford the median house.

It seems to have been that way a lot in the 70s and 80s.

Another challenge people have today is down payments are higher than they were, so that’s an additional hit against affordability.

When the red line is above the green, it SHOULD put downward pressure on prices.

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Dont____Panic OP t1_ixzww69 wrote

Uh. The point is that one is on a different scale. To assign relevance of the green line to the other line would also say that the 1980s were cheap when everyone was struggling to get a mortgage.

They’re simply not that related.

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ThePandaRider t1_iy009pg wrote

The orange line represents the purchasing price. The purchasing price combined with the 30yr mortgage rates are used to calculate the monthly payment, the red line. The monthly payment is related to the monthly affordability. How do you not see something so obvious?

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