[OC] Racial breakdown of students at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford compared to students scoring 1400+ on the SATackermann t1_iu2zy3b wrote
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It’s at Asians’ expense though.
Not all Asians are wealthy. Especially those from Laos, Vietnam, or other poorer countries.
Lower income Asian kids are really getting screwed here. Why should they have to score much higher than others, to get to the same colleges?
If we need to discriminate at all, if anything, it should be based purely on wealth/income, not race. To somewhat counter wealthy peoples ability to afford expensive schools, private tutors, and SAT prep classes.
This would still indirectly favor URM, since they tend to be lower income. But it would better handle cases like poor Asian kids, or rich black kids.
craftmacaro t1_iu38j1n wrote
these are Ivies. Where massive amounts of the most populace ethicity on the planet are applying and pretty much every applicant is 1400 plus if not 1500 plus… there are schools in china and japan that are more prolific in many areas than the US schools and the high school prep of certain asian countries is directly geared towards high SAT scores, along with cultural emphasis that is lacking in many communities urm… i’m a professor as well as defender of my PhD at a college that sucks compared to harvard in rankings but is massively better recognized in snake venom research which is all i care about as a venom a researcher… harvard can keep its endowment. they don’t have 209 venomous snakes i can extract 5 minutes from my lab.
The truth is that a lot more than sat scores and grades are taken into account including relative performance amoung those of similar background and personal desire to go to this school for this reason apart from “you are the most prestigious”. I guarantee that those who had reached out to, and won over a faculty member. demonstrating why THAT school and THAT lab interested them, race was less of a factor among those that did that.
not saying it’s not still fucked up… but admissions are not based on morality police. they are based on statistical evaluations of many factors by people who understand the cost/benefit analysis and how to do the best with very limited info we have… and until we have less limited information… that really is the best we can do
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