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vlsdo t1_itqrj7o wrote on October 25, 2022 at 4:50 PM

But when a cam pulls out it's also because of a fall. Why does that get its own category?

Turtley13 t1_itqvs9k wrote on October 25, 2022 at 5:17 PM

Not necessarily. You can be 'taking' on a piece or using it as an anchor.