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Kelrakh t1_irqzx1q wrote

Reply to comment by redeggplant01 in Gun violence in Philadeplphia. Not beautiful, but... by uhhiforget

The problem with gun ownership is that you risk a societal arms race. Once you are in one it's like riding a tiger, a lot more dangerous to get off than to get on.

I think though, that gun ownership could be mostly upheld if gun violence went down.

Though I don't see much desire among owners to help with the efforts to do that.

My own take is that replacing male achievement with male self-assertion is the one of the main causes of gang violence, firearms use, crime, etc.

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redeggplant01 t1_irr05gn wrote

No, you don't ... and the violent crime rate in the US ( of which gun violence ( real gun violence not suicides and accidents being lumped in ) is a small subset ) is a lot lower that other Western nations with their repressive gun laws

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aradil t1_irtp37s wrote

Got an example?

[edit] They gave an example of Australia that appears to have been deleted by a mod, and then appear to have blocked me.

The closest the murder rate per 100k population between the US and Australia has been in the last 5 years was 5 times worse in the US than in Australia. Try again.

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