Submitted by Round-Bodybuilder187 t3_xx31rg in dataisbeautiful
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st6374 t1_ir9pg5u wrote
It says it's % of their GDP. So without knowing their GDP for each year. It's kinda hard to gauge how much they are spending.
If China has twice the GDP than India. Then the spending doesn't mirror each other at all. China would be militarily outspending India by 2*. That wouldn't be mirroring each other at all.
crazyhadron t1_ir9ptqu wrote
I guess the point they want to make is that India and China spend in step with each other.
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Tordoix t1_ir9ujnj wrote
But exactly that is a very bold statement, the numbers might be correlated but there are many things I could think of why they are probably not causing each other. Primarily both are depending, through the GDP, on the global economic situation. Both countries economies are dependent on trade with the world and show probably the same characteristics. Therefore a measure by GDP gives a less conclusive picture of the situation as it brings in extra correlative factors.
Jaded_Prompt_15 t1_ir9uxp8 wrote
> make is that India and China spend in step with each other
That might be what they're trying to say, but the data isn't about that...
Macrophage87 t1_ir9v36f wrote
Also, China is notable for 'cooking the books' when it comes to GDP. A lot of countries do, for instance, Italy won an Ig-Nobel prize in economics for including its black market in GDP statistics to boost the numbers.
Jaded_Prompt_15 t1_ir9v5bd wrote
The vast majority of posts about India don't make sense when you think about them...
MisterGreys t1_ir9wjh4 wrote
This phenomenon is call the security dilemma, a state increasing their military security leads others to fear for their security, thus increasing their own military spending
Jaded_Prompt_15 t1_ir9wri9 wrote
Then you'd talk about total spending, not % of GDP.
If me and Bill Gates spend 2% of our earnings on something, we're not both spending the same amount of money.
What doesn't make sense about that?
MisterGreys t1_ir9xixc wrote
I was just talking about the spending for their corresponding years. Yes, their magnitudes are different but it's a response to each other's spending.
Jaded_Prompt_15 t1_ira0gzd wrote
Except even that isn't the same....
Most of China is under 2%, and all of India is over 2%
Some years one goes up and the other goes down.
It just looks the same because the graph is shitty and measuring something that doesn't even matter.
Lanky_Fella t1_ira167h wrote
It clearly doesn’t. Just at first glance 1992-1993 shows an opposite direction
DaBIGmeow888 t1_ira2s8i wrote
How is this databeautiful??
DaBIGmeow888 t1_ira2w9z wrote
Do you have a peer-reviewed publication that shows China's GDP is cooked?
Macrophage87 t1_ira4bhf wrote
Here's one:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165410118300399
And a link to the press release from Yale, for a more laymen-friendly version:
https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/study-suggests-that-local-chinese-officials-manipulate-gdp
Macrophage87 t1_ira4ot0 wrote
Here's more if you want, both evidence of manipulation, and the resulting effects:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0278425422000126
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0929119921001814
ChrispyFry t1_iraqb3m wrote
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BabaYagaa1 t1_irb02u6 wrote
That's what happens when your military strategy isn't to invade, but for counter measures.
Dopple__ganger t1_ircpgnv wrote
A governmental budget is never going to be equal between two countries with unequal gdps. The point is, when china increases their spending, India does too. And visa versa.
Jaded_Prompt_15 t1_irdye6s wrote
> The point is, when china increases their spending, Indian does too. And visa versa.
OPs shitty graph disagrees....
GODSE-BOT t1_ire3rdg wrote
India is also making a space station.
Round-Bodybuilder187 OP t1_ir9oov0 wrote
Data: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS
Tool: Tableau