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soldforaspaceship t1_jd68six wrote

I don't know if people are aware but Google is blocked in China. Bing is not. I lived there for more than a decade and only used Bing while there. I suspect most of Bing's revenue comes from China.

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INeedCheesee t1_jd6d2vj wrote

Most people just use Baidu in China

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Exotic-Today3865 t1_jd71cmn wrote

Baidu kinda has a bad image in China and a lot of the younger tech savvy people actually prefer Bing or the Quark Search by Alibaba Group.

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scooterbuhddy t1_jd85ska wrote

That’s interesting! Why does baidu have a bad image in China?

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Exotic-Today3865 t1_jdby2k8 wrote

They had search results link to a private hospital group (since it was paid ads). However the group is shady to say the least and would also charge absurd amounts of money and so on. China has huge trust issues towards both what the government and private enterprise says. Let’s just say foreign companies are trusted more than a lot of the local companies, no matter how hard the government and local conglomerates try.

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soldforaspaceship t1_jd6fp75 wrote

Depends what they are searching for. Even local friends preferred Bing for international searches. I only used Baidu for searches in Mandarin on local stuff. Obviously can't speak for the country!

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DaBIGmeow888 t1_jd7oob5 wrote

Bing is for foreigners searching international stuff. Most locals use Baidu.

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soldforaspaceship t1_jd7wg1v wrote

Absolutely. But some locals use Bing for international searches. That was my experience at least.

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Shadecraze t1_jd9e47a wrote

here are some stats i could find for anyone else curious about the numbers

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soldforaspaceship t1_jd9gv87 wrote

That's about what I expected but thanks! 14% of market share in China would push their numbers enormously!

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biebergotswag t1_jd73r3p wrote

baidu is famous for being absolutely useless, you can search for dingtalk on baidu, and the first link may be a virus.

Baidu's absolute uselessness is what allowed the APP market and wechat miniapps to bloom.

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DaBIGmeow888 t1_jd7p1kr wrote

China search engine marketshare
- Baidu: 65%
- Bing: 11%
https://www.statista.com/statistics/253340/market-share-of-search-engines-in-china-pageviews/

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biebergotswag t1_jd7z1z0 wrote

When you include the truly big alternatives such as alibaba(including amap), wechat search, toutiao, meituan, dianping ect baidu is not big at all.

Search engines are not that big in china. Baidu don't nearly have the monoply as google has in the west

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Enfiznar t1_jd9651g wrote

65% is big. Not google big, but big, more so in china.

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biebergotswag t1_jda8eo2 wrote

It is a much smaller market, because the users of browsers and search engines are much fewer.

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Nightie_Whities t1_jd6eah4 wrote

You are correct in that more users in China use Bing than the US, but don’t forget that Siri searches default to Bing as well.

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itskdog t1_jd8a3ib wrote

And it powers both Yahoo and DuckDuckGo

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Sttocs t1_jd97fwh wrote

And every time I have a new computer or profile, I use Google for a few weeks to see what I’m missing. Go back to Bing/DuckDuckGo every time. Google search is completely worthless.

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420everytime t1_jd6zw7l wrote

In America, a lot of older people who haven’t changed their default search engine use bing.

For many who do drop shipping, bing is their main source of profitable ads

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CanWeTalkHere t1_jd8583j wrote

Bing doesn't monetize for shit in China. So, no.

Source: I helped build Bing (first Windows Live Search) in China (and could tell you all sorts of stories of government interference).

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itskdog t1_jd8a8hw wrote

Wasn't it originally MSN before it was Windows Live Search? AFAIK, the rename was just to promote their social network.

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CanWeTalkHere t1_jd8gyfq wrote

In the U.S. it was. In China, we started with Windows Live search (there may have been an MSN Search earlier, in China, that was utilizing some 3rd party search of some sort. I don't recall exactly.).

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waterfall5555 t1_jd8pjfi wrote

It's not like nobody in the western world uses Bing.

I personally switched to bing (and Microsoft Edge) half a year ago and i'm finding myself liking it a lot

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olivierbush t1_jd78a12 wrote

Thanks for sharing. I agree with you regarding Bing. It seems that the biggest part of Bing's traffic comes from China. Also, recommend you to see this article where you can find useful information.

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Aggressive_Ris t1_jdgmnaf wrote

Im in the US an use Bing because of Microsoft Rewards. I just let my point build up and every 2-3 years redeem like $200 in Amazon gift codes.

If you set your desktop and mobile search engines to it then it's actually a nice little way to basically make free money (well, 'money' in gift cards they have or other stuff on the Microsoft store or their products...).

I highly reccommend it if you enjoy free stuff. The search engine itself is good too, I don't miss Google or any of its functionalities at all, it's basically the same in a different UI.

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Timid_Robot t1_jd72241 wrote

If everyone in china used bing, the market share would be way bigger

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soldforaspaceship t1_jd799ip wrote

Obviously. Not everyone does. But when Google isn't an option clearly people are going to use other search engines.

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Timid_Robot t1_jd7ge55 wrote

Yeah, but not Bing...

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soldforaspaceship t1_jd7oi9e wrote

Don't know what to tell you. Can only speak from my experience.

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Timid_Robot t1_jdbjxsv wrote

Yeah exactly, you are one person. There is data about this that is easily accessible

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soldforaspaceship t1_jdbxayi wrote

Data says Bing has over 14% of market share as another commentor shared so it turns out my experience was pretty accurate but thanks for your feedback!

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Timid_Robot t1_jdc6f18 wrote

No, you're comment was that most of Bings revenue comes from China. That's not what the data says, that's not even what your experience says. Sure, some people (14%) use bing in china. That does not mean most of their revenue comes from China. Data says it's about 30%, more ore less equal to the revenue from the us. You're experience means jack shit...

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soldforaspaceship t1_jdct7bi wrote

I said I suspect most of Bing's revenue comes from China. Given that they have 14% market share in China and 6% in the US, that wasn't a bad suspusion. Every analysis shows China uses Bing more than the US does. I'm not sure where you're looking but since the person posted the 14% thing I've not found anything to support your points.

I'm also not sure why this is your hill to die on. I'm speaking about my experience in China. If your experience there was difference fair enough.

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