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databeautifier OP t1_jaypq39 wrote

Reply to comment by PSMF_Canuck in [OC] All-Time Deadliest Accidents and Disasters vs. One Year of Traffic Deaths by databeautifier

The source (Wikipedia) categorizes the "Nedelin catastrophe" that way since a rocket exploded before launch and up to 300 people died. I go into more detail in this comment:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/11ij5le/comment/jaypfgq

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PSMF_Canuck t1_jayqd21 wrote

Wow. TIL. Ok, that makes sense, and personally I’m fine with space rocket blowing up on the ground as counting as a space death.

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Nervous-Dark-4559 t1_jb0gedy wrote

But on this argument, what about thoes hit by meteorites?

honestly, this should be in the "accident" category

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iiSpook t1_jb0kby6 wrote

If you're going to be this pedantic you're going to have to find out how many of those "aviation" deaths weren't actively flying at the time as well. I think it's perfectly fine to categorize accidents with vehicles that were specifically meant to go to space as space-related accidents.

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DavidBrooker t1_jb1c3fl wrote

I believe the deadliest aviation disaster listed here in the above post was mostly on the ground: a KLM 747 was taking off and was only a few feet off the ground when it crashed into a Pan Am 747 that was taxiing across the runway. About six hundred people died, the Tenerife airport disaster.

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PCPooPooRace_JK t1_jb0nz10 wrote

It doesnt sit right though. Aviation is a bit less ambigious than space which suggests it involved space.

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iiSpook t1_jb0pu8j wrote

How far off the ground does a literal space rocket have to go to be considered a space-related accident then? I think Aviation is actually even more ambiguous because it could contain space travel as well as "normal" planes and all other forms of flight. Lists of spaceflight-related accidents even include training accidents. Would you say the Challenger disaster wasn't an accident that would fall into the "space" category?

As I said, extremely pedantic.

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Commercial-9751 t1_jb0qy0x wrote

That number actually does include those killed by meteorites as the number is 0.

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ArkGuardian t1_jb13chu wrote

No one has verifiably been killed by meteors in the last century at least. And sources before that are dubious. Why did you even bring this up?

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