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Godloseslaw t1_jag40ls wrote

But Notre Dame hasn't actually won a national championship in over 30 years. They are the most overrated team in all of sports.

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SnortingCoffee t1_jag613g wrote

What part of this data are you disagreeing with?

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Godloseslaw t1_jag6ldy wrote

Use of "successful", I suppose.

Notre Dame is 7-15 in their last 22 bowl games.

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frog_football t1_jag6wi0 wrote

You can clearly see ND plateau on the graph don’t get mad at OP for the data

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Godloseslaw t1_jag9x2s wrote

Not arguing with the data, but the qualification of the data.

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hiricinee t1_jagcuso wrote

Its giving them credit for placing high rather than just winning championships. A team that gets 4th 30 times in a row is likely better than one that gets 1st once and then never hits the top 12 again.

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SnortingCoffee t1_jag6wyr wrote

They're still the third most successful college football program of all time, as shown in this graph.

"Why does everyone say Muhammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all time wtf the guy hasn't won a fight since like 1978"

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suddenly_seymour t1_jagni4i wrote

Ali has been retired for ages. He's not out there getting his ass kicked year in year out like Notre Dame is. Totally irrelevant comparison.

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liveyourdreamsmax t1_jah73sd wrote

Nobody is saying notre dame is the most successful program of the past 30 years.

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Stoneador t1_jagkgww wrote

I too define success by record in last 22 bowl games

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rubixor t1_jah6slz wrote

I dont see how this data shows they are overrated... The line representing their success has been pretty flat for the past 30 years compared to other more recently dominant teams... This data presents Norte Dame as a team that demonstrated unprecedented dominance until the early 90's and has had a little bit of success ever since.

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