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Apartment_List OP t1_j9r9sp5 wrote

Reply to comment by coronaflo in In the US, the gap between Black and White Homeownership is widening with each generation [OC] by Apartment_List

Latinos can fall into either of these two groups.

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[deleted] t1_j9rhzew wrote

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ad-lapidem t1_j9rj7xo wrote

"Hispanic" is an ancestry/ethnicity under US government definitions, not a racial one. This does make things very complicated for data collection.

https://www.census.gov/topics/population/hispanic-origin/about/comparing-race-and-hispanic-origin.html

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MinutPop t1_j9symez wrote

The US gov has a strange definition of race.. White could mean anyone who is not African or Asian.. I wonder what that chart would look like if you consider all the groups within this “white” collection, for example: Germanic, Slavic, Roman, Norse, Berber, Arab & Turkic

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ad-lapidem t1_j9thjnz wrote

All racial categories are social/political, not scientific, as the Census itself is careful to observe. Labels and self identification change over time as well.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/02/25/the-changing-categories-the-u-s-has-used-to-measure-race/

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MinutPop t1_j9tlngw wrote

So why clump together everything that is not asian or african? And have separate categories for those? 🤷‍♂️

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ad-lapidem t1_j9tq5jz wrote

You're asking why an arbitrary definition is arbitrary in a certain way and not another? Ask the OMB.

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Apartment_List OP t1_j9rkecm wrote

In census data, race and hispanic/latino origin are two distinct concepts.

Race is based on self-identification and has five categories: White, Black or African American, American Indian or Alaskan Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander. People can identify with one or more of these groups.

Hispanic or Latino origin is based on heritage and also have five categories: None, Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, and “other Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin."

Hispanic/Latinos can be of any race. An Afro-Caribbean household may be Hispanic and Black. And Anglo-Spanish household may be Hispanic and White.

There is also, of course, nuance in how people identify with the terms Hispanic, Latino, and Spanish, but the Census Bureau uses them interchangeably.

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_crazyboyhere_ t1_j9s7y1n wrote

Hispanic isn't a race but a linguistic category. Hispanics can be fully European/White like Spaniards, fully Indigenous like Amerindians, fully Black like descendants of slaves, half Indigenous and half European like Mestizos, half Black and half White like Mulattos, 3/4th European and 1/4th Indigenous like Castizos and anything you can think of. Hispanic literally means Spanish speaker, it is no different from calling all English speakers Anglos.

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russellzerotohero t1_j9rojzr wrote

They would actually fall under white… Hispanic is an ethnicity not a race.

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TrickyPlastic t1_j9tjtrb wrote

It's not even that. It's based on language. And Latino is based on culture. Brazilians are Latino but not Hispanic.

Mestizo would be the name of the actual biological racial category.

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russellzerotohero t1_j9tojmw wrote

From what I understand it’s pretty hard to pin down all of Latin America into a group like that. Since there is so much diversity in said group. Argentinian vs Mexican for example.

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BadBunnyYonaguni t1_j9urf71 wrote

Fun fact I learned from a Colombian - most common language in South America? Portuguese. Ethnic group with largest plurality? White people. You can look it up on wiki. Shocking to me as an Indian lol.

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