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jamkoch t1_j96rb9m wrote

Just keep in mind that until the early to late 1960s, the NIT was the premier basketball tourney in the US which lead to a national champion, not the NCAA. Adolph Rupp, who couldn't get anywhere in the NIT created the spectacular of the NCAA and got his early wins by refusing to compete with other Basketball powers.

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unc8299 t1_j98p6vc wrote

Didn’t programs play in both tournaments back then too

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Alex15can t1_j989i20 wrote

So Kentucky is still better than 99.9% of college programs under your theory anyways. Get bent.

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FoolRegnant t1_j98ay6c wrote

Weird hostility...

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Alex15can t1_j98cn0w wrote

Weird stupid take.

The winner of the NCAA tournament was almost always a stronger contender then the winner of the NIT.

The NCAA won all three years they played head to head.

So this argument that the NCAA was easy wins prior to the 50’s is just dumb.

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FoolRegnant t1_j98e8x5 wrote

As a layman who doesn't give a shit about college basketball, I thought it was interesting. Certainly I had never heard of NIT. Honestly, it just seems strange that someone would get annoyed enough with that statement to comment and defend a college basketball team in the 50s. Like, who cares?

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Alex15can t1_j98fi6w wrote

I mean he clearly cared enough to make up what was basically a lie?

Why can’t I be upset about that? Why do you care so much about me proving him wrong?

Notice he didn’t even have the balls to respond when called out.

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FoolRegnant t1_j98hh0o wrote

You didn't say anything in your original comment other than Kentucky is good, get bent. That's why I'm calling you out - to me, either of you could be right or lying. And, newsflash, you haven't proved him wrong. He used a couple sentences to mention names that an interested viewer could use to look up and do their own research. You just said "Kentucky is the best," which is not an argument or proving anything.

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Alex15can t1_j98ilvx wrote

>You didn't say anything in your original comment other than Kentucky is good, get bent.

Yeah. And the comment I responded to say nothing other Kentucky bad.

>That's why I'm calling you out - to me, either of you could be right or lying.

It’s called look it up. See who is right. Hint it’s me.

>And, newsflash, you haven't proved him wrong. He used a couple sentences to mention names that an interested viewer could use to look up and do their own research. You just said "Kentucky is the best," which is not an argument or proving anything.

Are you this dudes alt or something.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Invitation_Tournament

> The champions of both the NCAA and NIT tournaments played each other for three seasons during World War II. From 1943 to 1945, the American Red Cross sponsored a postseason charity game between each year's tournament champions to raise money for the war effort.[23] The series was described by Ray Meyer as not just benefit games, but as "really the games for the national championship".[24] The NCAA champion prevailed in all three games.[25]

>The Helms Athletic Foundation retrospectively selected the NIT champion as its national champion for 1938 (Temple) and chose the NIT champion over the NCAA champion once, in 1939 (Long Island).[26] More recently, the mathematically based Premo-Porretta Power Poll published in the ESPN College Basketball Encyclopedia retrospectively ranked teams for each season prior to 1949, the year in which the Associated Press poll was implemented. For the period when the tournaments overlapped between 1939 and 1948, Premo-Porretta ranked the NIT champion ahead of the NCAA champion twice (1939 and 1941) and the NCAA champion ahead of the NIT champion eight times.[27]

No where did I say Kentucky was the best.

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