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SlayerOfDougs t1_j8w84vw wrote

That , but mostly John Deere wanted to remove the pension for new hires. The old guard stood up and say no partially because they were screwed by the previous old guard in reduced pensions.

Seeing that they netted 7 billion, it appears the workers were right

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tukachinchilla t1_j8wa7un wrote

Wonder how much of that profit is from their proprietary accessories, parts and service schemes.

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cmde44 t1_j8wgvhq wrote

You know how you can't replace anything broken on your iPhone anywhere unless it's through an Apple store and it's performed by an Apple tech and costs an arm and a leg? John Deere does the same thing.

What used to be simple / or more basic maintenance work that a farmer could perform on their own is now not possible due to programming and must be performed by the dealership. This is an expense small farms can't take on and have been fighting for quite a while now.

U.S. Congress has been playing around with "right to repair" bills for years now; I believe on was just passed recently in regards to Deere, but it wasn't enough.

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cmde44 t1_j8wjquv wrote

Nope! They just put the diagnostic equipment behind programming paywalls that's only accessible to JD techs. Even if you could diagnose the problem without hooking to the machine electronically, you wouldn't be able to reprogram or finalize the fix once it was completed.

All of this was to make sure John Deere made the money on repairs using their techs and their parts. My company uses older series JD tractors (80's and 90's) and they are very easy to work on and not very electronic component heavy. A fuel pump goes out, we know what that looks like and we just fix it ourselves. Something simple like this might cost me $2,000 to do on my own but would cost $5,000 to have done by the dealership (these aren't real numbers of course).

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abubuwu t1_j8wthso wrote

You lose your phone for a few days it's inconvenient but not a big deal.
You can't use a tractor for days to potentially weeks at a time and you can end up losing an entire crop field, that's the type of stuff that can literally lead to bankruptcy.

You don't own a JD tractor but "the vehicle owner receives an implied license for the life of the vehicle to operate the vehicle, subject to any warranty limitations, disclaimers or other contractual limitations in the sales contract or documentation"

https://copyright.gov/1201/2015/comments-032715/class%2021/John_Deere_Class21_1201_2014.pdf

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slimetraveler t1_j8x0low wrote

Where do their residential tractors fit in? I figured they were a small part but they are probably what is most recognizable about the company.

Also I've heard some some grumbling from farmers about not being able to do basic repairs themselves and service contracts being kindof forced on them as subscription services. Would that fall under financial products?

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SociologySaves t1_j8y1nsw wrote

And anti union. Exploit cheap labor. Amerikkka.

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Chupacabras7 t1_j8yi2ab wrote

Is there one for CAT?? Couldn’t find one using the search bar

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dan_bodine t1_j8z9446 wrote

It should be Gross income not profit.

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BurnTheOrange t1_j8zqmf0 wrote

Where's the line item for fucking up right to repair and charging farmers with broken equipment exorbitant fees while their crops rot?

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Zhydrac t1_j9078v1 wrote

Fun fact: they even make off-road UTVs

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jordtand t1_j90hif3 wrote

2B$ to research new ways of fucking over farmers

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Desmag t1_j90ruzw wrote

Cost of sales? Or wine and dine?

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Feerlez_Leeder101 t1_j912ql4 wrote

Well... How John Deere makes 75% of its money I guess. Not really sure what "other" would be.

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anonkitty2 t1_j93s9y0 wrote

The service schemes would be under "financial products.". Accessories and parts would go under the categories of the vehicles they are accessories and parts for. Toys and clothes would be under "other."

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DarkNikolas t1_j9afgmg wrote

Plz show Sankey source / template in Python for this diagram 🙄

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