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the_3d6 t1_j9v1uun wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in [OC] How much territory Russia and Ukraine hold at one year of war by gridnews

8M people left Ukraine. Of those who did it of their own will ~5M went to Europe. It is unknown how many people willingly moved to russia - but there are many known facts of forced deportation there

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V_es t1_j9v3pre wrote

Around 2 million went to Russia. As far as I know, the most into one country. 1.2m into Poland.

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the_3d6 t1_j9v49br wrote

I agree with that number. But it's really not clear how many did so willingly - and not because they had no option to move in Europe or elsewhere so it was the only safe~ish destination available

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Winjin t1_j9w0y8b wrote

You do know a lot of people living in the west of Ukraine identified as Russian?

I see people painting this like a hostage situation, but these people are not kept in camps or something, they have internet and flats.

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the_3d6 t1_j9w2xiy wrote

Not in the west, but there are indeed such people in the east. Yet even there a vast majority condemned russian actions. Clearly forced deportation didn't happen often - but people on occupied territories are given a choice of going through many filtration checkpoints in order to get to free Ukraine (with very real chances to be detained for as much as pro-Ukrainian telegram.channel found in their phone), or unrestricted, no questions asked passage to russia

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Winjin t1_j9xhb7e wrote

Right, sorry, the East, the currently occupied parts basically.

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Mistercanadianface t1_j9y4bdi wrote

In Quebec some people feel closer ties to France than Canada - does this mean France should invade?

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