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PixelPervert t1_j7k5x7b wrote

Wouldn't Disney owning Marvel also put Marvel's money in Disney's pockets?

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whereismymind86 t1_j7k84p2 wrote

Disney owns fox too

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NomenNescio13 t1_j7ka219 wrote

This actually raises an interesting question, because while Marvel Studios have made the majority of their profits under Disney, Fox is a very recent acquisition. So should that count towards Disney's revenue?

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nocommenting_ t1_j7kcf41 wrote

Disney “owns” that revenue as much as it “owns” the revenue that Toy Story made (Disney distributed, they didn’t produce), but eyeballing these numbers, the Disney total includes Pixar (Hell, the example picture is a Lucasfilm property…)

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Nanooktoo t1_j7kh27r wrote

They count Lucasfilm under Disney, Fox and Marvel should be included.

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kaidon t1_j7kqxf0 wrote

Wait… are all of these just Disney?!!

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Cludista t1_j7ksv3i wrote

Disney has a near monopoly on entertainment. Also congress doesn't do its job anymore.

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thatcockneythug t1_j7kyvkl wrote

If the feds were to get back into the practice of monopoly busting, the entertainment industry is like, the last thing I'd like them to focus on lol

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BrisklyBrusque t1_j7kwj3i wrote

When Disney acquired Fox a few years ago, it became pretty clear Disney would be getting about 1/3 of all the revenue that goes to the box office. pretty insane.

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Decumulate t1_j7kx21p wrote

To clarify for people not thinking through this comment - disney bought 20th century fox (the movie studio), not Fox News

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Aggressive-Morning11 t1_j7khfdv wrote

The same Fox as Fox News? Or only the movie buisness, 21st century fox?

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spargbotu t1_j7khujq wrote

The bought everything except the news part of the fox empire.

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CantFindMyWallet t1_j7knxrp wrote

They didn't buy FOX Sports, either.

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DaoFerret t1_j7kuj1p wrote

They couldn’t buy the FOX broadcast channels because they owned ABC. (Barred from owning two networks)

Murdoch wanted to keep FOX News (it was the part that wasn’t for sale)

They didn’t want/need FOX Sports because they already owned ESPN. (I don’t think they were barred from buying it, and I don’t think it was not for sale, they just weren’t interested?)

(Not disagreeing, just clarifying)

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oddiseeus t1_j7kzbq9 wrote

>Murdoch wanted to keep FOX News (it was the part that wasn’t for sale)

“Nobody else is going to own one of my megaphones.”

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TommyBaseball t1_j7kiim5 wrote

Not Fox broadcast channels or Fox News. The only US TV channels they picked up were FX and Nat Geo plus the 20th Century movie productions.

"Among other key assets, the acquisition included the 20th Century Fox film and television studios, U.S. cable/satellite channels such as FX, Fox Networks Group, a 73% stake in National Geographic Partners, Indian television broadcaster Star India, and a 30% stake in Hulu. Immediately preceding the acquisition. The remaining, not acquired, assets of 21st Century Fox, the Fox Broadcasting Company, Fox Television Stations, Fox News Channel, Fox Business, Fox Sports 1 and 2, Fox Deportes, and the Big Ten Network as well as the 67%-owned Credible Labs, spun off into the newly formed Fox Corporation. Other 21st Century Fox assets such as the Fox Sports Networks and Sky were divested and sold off to third parties such as Comcast, Sinclair Broadcast Group and Yankee Global Enterprises."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquisition_of_21st_Century_Fox_by_Disney

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NowAlexYT t1_j7kqsfl wrote

Wow i never made the connection between Fox News, FX, and 20th century Fox...

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--Beaugardes-- t1_j7kv1j1 wrote

If I remember correctly, News Corp (Fox's parent company) spun off the entertainment division into its own company which is what Disney later purchased.

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Chazzwazz t1_j7kgx0a wrote

Same goes for New Line Cinema, being Warner their Parent company

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spidereater t1_j7kcwdx wrote

I was going to say that it’s interesting that the top 10 studios only vary by a factor of 3. Kind of argues against the idea that there is excessive media consolidation. But Disney owns fox and marvel so really it’s only 8 and the difference is over a factor of 6 and number 2 is less than half of Disney. So really consolidation is massive.

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theod4re t1_j7kmlqk wrote

Also New Line and Legendary are subsidiaries of WB. This guide makes no sense.

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JBarretta01 t1_j7kqi31 wrote

This graphic seems misleading to me

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DaoFerret t1_j7kuret wrote

The Life of Pi seems thrown in there as subversive marketing for the new Life of Pi play coming out (/s?)

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answeryboi t1_j7kcfp1 wrote

Why would it? This is a measure of how successful the studios are at making high earning films, not business acumen. Marvel studios is still a separate entity from Disney studios.

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frostmatthew t1_j7kjk3r wrote

Then why does OP consider Star Wars under Disney instead of LucasFilm? Within Disney LucasFilm is as distinct as Marvel Studios so it doesn't make sense to separate one in the chart but not both.

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answeryboi t1_j7kkq9g wrote

After clicking through to see more data, the star wars films and some marvel films are listed under Disney motion pictures. I retract all defenses, this is terrible data.

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answeryboi t1_j7kjsee wrote

They're not actually combined. The source data lists them separately, OP just put a picture of star wars for Disney.

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PixelPervert t1_j7ke6ne wrote

Disney still must profit off of owning them. There's no reason to have bought them otherwise.

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answeryboi t1_j7kf59t wrote

That's not what I meant. What I mean is that this data should be separated out by studio as it is because, in a sense, it's a measurement of the studio's performance.

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unimportantthing t1_j7kitwa wrote

Even if that’s what’s happening, OP’s graph is still disingenuous then. I mean, the representative picture for Disney is a Lucasfilm movie, a separate studio owned by Disney. It also appears that the Disney bar includes Pixar profits, which is also a separate studio owned by Disney.

So why include some under the parent but not others? What is the criteria? It’s a poor choice of data display.

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answeryboi t1_j7kjq2h wrote

While the picture shows Star Wars, the source data lists Lucasfilms separately from Disney. I think it's just a poor choice in pictures.

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answeryboi t1_j7kkqsj wrote

After clicking through to see more data, the star wars films and some marvel films are listed under Disney motion pictures. I retract all defenses, this is terrible data.

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flakemasterflake t1_j7kqtn8 wrote

These are production companies. Disney is the distribution company that distributes for the production companies under their umbrella. Just as Sony distributes for Columbia Pictures

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Wont_reply69 t1_j7kys3h wrote

Columbia has Bond for the picture but it doesn’t even own Bond and only distributed with MGM producing for the most recent four films. So either OP just really liked that picture of Daniel Craig or they’re confused about the difference between distributing and producing.

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flakemasterflake t1_j7kz1o9 wrote

Yes, but Sony did use to distribute Bond and this list seems to be a historical/all time list

OP just took the info from the-numbers.com, doubt they understand it either

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noonehasthisoneyet t1_j7kxfo7 wrote

Wb also owns new line. And legendary has distributed its movies through almost all of the bigger names.

I guess the difference is while Disney and wb own some of the others you don’t see the Disney logo for a marvel movie or for avatar so they can be seen as separate production companies but we know they are owned by one.

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KnifeHappens t1_j7kuoy7 wrote

Cane here to say this. Disney is definitely at the top.

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thatguywhosadick t1_j7kx5wu wrote

Yeah disney is at least 3 of the things off this list in terms of stuff that the general public knows they own. That alone is like 105 billion based off this graph.

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MyReddittName t1_j7kx78q wrote

Conversely, the chart seems to exclude most of Sony Picture aside from its holdings of Columbia Pictures. It should also incorporate totals from Screen Gems and TriStar Pictures

And would Spider-Man: No Way Home be double counted as Sony and Marvel?

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Bear_necessities96 t1_j7l2l7x wrote

There’s Disney studios, Marvel Studios and 20th Century fox three different studios the company that owns those studios is Walt Disney Company

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