NeverrSummer t1_j6uvzuo wrote on February 2, 2023 at 1:25 AM

Reply to comment by HortaNord in TikTok Ban for Government Employees by State by lemonzestttttttt

TikTok is no worse than reddit or Facebook or video games or MSN Messenger or IRC or BBS or television or radio or books or whatever other shit the adults of the generation claimed was "poisoning the youth".

You aren't enlightened. You're just old.

This is the exact same moral panic we've been seeing for centuries, and pretending TikTok is truly the most serious it's ever been is extreme hypocrisy.

DefinitelyNotMasterS t1_j6uzt8e wrote on February 2, 2023 at 1:53 AM

People being wrong in the past doesn't mean that people will always be wrong in the future, what a bizarre take.

NeverrSummer t1_j6v04tx wrote on February 2, 2023 at 1:55 AM

Well no... but hundreds of years of being wrong in the exact same way might be evidence to hesitate about coming to the same conclusions yourself.

It doesn't obviate being wrong, but it suggests caution for sure, right?

Jammintoad t1_j6v4izu wrote on February 2, 2023 at 2:28 AM

And people also thought cigarettes and alcohol was good for you. That doesn't mean they are. It's not just a generational difference in behavior, it's consumption of a substance.

Sure you can live a full life doing things that are unhealthy. That doesn't make them ultimately "good" for you

NeverrSummer t1_j74w2km wrote on February 4, 2023 at 2:16 AM

And you honestly, genuinely in your heart of hearts, think that is worse than all the shit I saw on 4chan and LiveLeak as a child?

To the point that we need to ban TikTok because the algorithm is just that toxic, but me seeing a beheading when I was like nine was okay? Those parts of the internet were and are fine?

Or is your argument that those are also a problem and we need a "great firewall of America" where only approved websites are allowed to grace our delicate children's eyes?

How do you differentiate between individual responsibility, parental responsibility, and governmental responsibility for online content?

Jammintoad t1_j7517ij wrote on February 4, 2023 at 2:58 AM

I didn't say anything about banning tik tok or even regulating it. Don't put words in my mouth. And no, I don't think you should have seen those things as a young child, at least without someone helping you deal with them.

Alcohol nor cigarettes are banned, but that doesn't mean we can't view them as generally unhealthy in most cases.

HortaNord t1_j6wqjuu wrote on February 2, 2023 at 1:04 PM

MSN Messenger & IRC didn't had an AI throwing pointless content at your face, this is the difference betwen something usable and something toxic

NeverrSummer t1_j6x0aeq wrote on February 2, 2023 at 2:23 PM

Sure they just had humans doing it, which seems equivalent.