Nothing will change. It is what it is.

Any word on whether he may have been saved by additional bike lanes?

You got what you voted for, boston.

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Any word on whether bike lanes have anything to do with homicides?

Congratulations, it’s 7:24am and I’ve already read the most idiotic thing I’ll see on the internet today.

Real talk, if you're young and black in Boston and anyone ever asks you where you are from, just run. There are no right answers, and some terribly wrong ones.

Why is it that people like you act like a government is only ever capable of addressing a single issue at a time?

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It speaks to the focus of city government. The mayor made her first state of the city speech last week. No mention of violence prevention. The only thing she said even remotely mentioning law enforcement was making sure everyone knew the race of the police commissioner she hired.

Same ones killing shooting each other. More Police, less Police, “Reimagine Law Enforcement”, blah, blah, blah.

Nothing changes the behavior. Again, it is what it is.

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Man the regular drip of violent crime in certain neighborhoods is really depressing. Then at the end of the year someone will post a link to all the murder victims in the city and they will all be the same part of the city and almost entirely black. Does anyone else get a sort of boys in the hood feeling out of this? The city allows the cycle of violence to continue and no one really cares enough to change anything. Going back to the line from the movie,

“One out of 21 black American males will be murdered in their lifetime. Most will die at the hands of another black male.”

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQdE0_Hy10M

🙌🏾

You've posted this elsewhere in r/boston and as I pointed out to that comment since 1990 the number of bike lanes has increased dramatically while the number of homicides has plummeted. You are obviously ignoring the irrefutable correlation that additional bike lanes actually reduced homicides in the city of Boston.

He's from Norwood and they said it was a targeted attack. Seems like there's a lot of information missing still to say what happened.

> No mention of violence prevention.

Bro, you need to work on your reading comprehension.

“Our police officers took nearly 900 guns off our streets and worked with community to achieve the lowest level of Part One, violent and property crime in 15 years. I want to thank Commissioner Michael Cox for coming home to Boston, Superintendent-in-Chief Greg Long for your service over 18 months as Acting Commissioner, and all our officers for your hard work.”

“We are looking to end community violence with new strategies to address trauma and provide essential supports—from our Youth Safety Task Force, to an alternative crisis response program with EMS and behavioral health services.”

> The only thing she said even remotely mentioning law enforcement was making sure everyone knew the race of the police commissioner she hired.

Not true, see here:

“The boy from Roxbury who wanted to serve and protect, who—against all odds, and over nearly three decades—rose through every level of leadership at the Boston Police Department, is now our Boston Police Commissioner: Michael Cox”

And here:

“As the rest of our city slept, Boston’s 311 and 911 call-takers answered phones throughout the night, to send services where needed, while emergency management crews, EMS, police, and fire stood ready.”

https://www.boston.gov/news/mayor-wus-state-city-address

That’s like saying the solution to poverty is more money.

The problem is not stating the solution, it’s implementing the solution.

“No way to prevent this” says only nation where this regularly happens

There’s always misinformation when it doesn’t fit the narrative….

Obviously no guns = no shootings, but it won’t address violence in general. These kids clearly have shitty parents and are growing up disadvantaged from the start. I was taught other ways to deal with conflicts other than violence. These kids were not.

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Youre using 1990, a huge gang war year, as a bellwether. It was 33 years ago and not an average year as far as violence. We’ve had an average of 3 shootings a week so far in 2023. You are seriously trying to get me to believe that jamming (widely unused) bike lanes everywhere in the city is somehow stopping gangbangers from shooting eachother?

>Teenage boys are stupid, have always been stupid, will always be stupid.

If left to their own devices? Sure. So are adults.

Start holding parents accountable and watch how smart teenagers can become.

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Lmfao I mean your comment showed you’re not that intelligent. The fact that you can’t pick up simple satire is even further proof

>“Helicopter parents!” >“Be accountable for your kids!” >“Let kids be kids!”

…who are you quoting?

Are they in the room with us right now?

>Wouldn’t it just be easier if children couldn’t get guns?

Your idea of Utopia is one where Boston youth:

• Stab three other kids after school in a park.

• Attack other teens unprovoked and smash bus windows with a brick.

Or my maybe simply

• Harass, Rob, and Beat a Man on the Train

(That’s just in the last ten days.)

Not everyone is lucky enough to have a stay at home parent. And if we need more after school activities, jobs, funding, etc then that’s something we can address.

But kids already can’t get guns.

Maybe we figure out a way to stop them from seeking them.

>You're using 1990, a huge gang war year, as a bellwether...We’ve had an average of 3 shootings a week so far in 2023.

And you're using a 3-4 week data set as a bellwether which is even less relevant when it comes to statistical analysis of overall homicide rates.

Plus there's the fact that you're repeatedly pitching some sort of fantasized connection between supposedly "unused" bike lane construction and homicides. Then you made it clear that you're completely daft when it comes to someone sarcastically taking the piss out of you (I even put the "/s" in the previous reply to try to help you out there).

I will say that if you went to Boston Public Schools we can at least use your stance on shootings & bike lanes as a prime example of educational failure here. I'll take that as a consolation.

I’m sorry, but how is it “easy” to get a gun? Last time I checked I owed my hometown $100, 3 references, and ultimate discretion from the chief of police. I couldn’t even use a cigarette lighter when I was 12, nevermind find someone who could sell me an illegal firearm. This comes down to parenting.

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I’m sure they could get knives or bats or chains.

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Thanks for the reply. It was interesting to hear your thoughts.

No, I think that they were pointing out that you are a moron, and they succeeded wildly!

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I didn't realize thousands of americans per year were dying by chains...

If British delinquents are limited to knives and bats, then so aren’t adults. Why should a responsible adult be denied a firearm because of deadbeat parents who can’t bother to raise their kids properly?

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Well I think we agree on that, brother. Respect for life and each other in this world is a lost concept on kids these days.

So embarrassing imagine living life like this what a fucking loser bahahahha

Then that's why people should be denied a firearm. Other countries DO NOT have this problem.

This argument is such a dead horse.

Guns are not going away, not because people want they to stay, but because they are a part of the social fiber of the underground. It’s completely pointless to try and “ban guns” because they simply will never go away.

Seriously. Banning guns does nothing for this. Dude has an idiotic “solution”. You don’t see Asian, Hispanic or white boys killing each other like this.

Imagine being this stupid.

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I don’t have kids so that argument is invalid. What if your kid takes your keys and runs someone over? What if he took your keys instead of your gun? Should another parent have their car taken away for your it responsibility and your kids actions? You can’t blame other people for someone else’s actions. That’s not how it works. Maybe some people aren’t good parents and that’s the deeper problem.

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Chicago is a hellhole of violence that has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country. why don’t you compare it to another city? How about Nashville or Charlotte or Charleston where the 2nd amendment is alive and well.

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Sounds like you’re propagating some stereotypes, but I’m not gonna go down that path. Sure the police can see a stolen car easier. But owners usually don’t know their car is stolen until hours after. Plenty of damage can be done before the police know to look twice at a car. So try again.

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Charleston is not in the top 65 cities in the country. North Charleston is but they aren’t the same city. Springfield Ma, Hartford Ct and Bridgeport Ct are in the top 65 as well. It’s very easy to get guns in Mass and connecticut

11,000 people were stabbed in London….. 11000!!!!!

Chicago averages 2,500 shootings a year

I haven’t shot a firearm in years, so it’s hardly a hobby. My guns have dust on them. Stop being a sarcastic child and talk like an adult. The prevalence of guns from 2023 is no different than in 1983. Society is broken.

The uncomfortable reality of the situation is that the problem cannot be solved by aggressive government intervention. Most of this violence stems from individuals lacking anger management and conflict resolution. Why inner city low income young black men have much higher rates of inability to resolve conflicts without violence is the question palgueing many cities around the US.

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Early childhood education, family planning resources, birth control accessibility, incentive based basic income, etc. There will never be a silver bullet for these type of issues, but there are plenty of things we can do better. We also need to face the reality that some of the best policies won't work over night, and will take many years to really payoff.

That's all to say that there is more than can/should be done.

The fact that street guns are cheaper and easier to find than the latest gaming console is a huge red flag.

You can get a gun at Best Buy?

You couldn't get a PS5 for the first 2 years after its release at BB either.

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> Chicago is a hellhole of violence that has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country. why don’t you compare it to another city?

Chicago isn’t even in the top 10 US cites as far as murder rate goes and most of the cities “strictest gun control laws” were struck down by courts.

Top 5 are:

St Louis

Baltimore

Detroit

New Orleans

Baton Rouge

How strict are gun laws in Louisiana? Could the ease of access to guns possibly be the reason they have not one, but two cities in the top 5 murder rate in the country?

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honestly i dont think the city leadership cares. If this were back bay it wouldn't be a link to universal hub, it would be every news outlet and the mayor would give a statement.

Agree that information is definitely missing. But tacknosaddle isn’t entirely wrong. Over the years families that were associated with, or loosely connected to particular neighborhood gangs, moved out of Boston in favor of places like Everett, Malden, revere, Norwood, Randolph, stoughton, etc.

But they’d still frequently return to Boston neighborhoods for some visits with friends or family. So this person might not be directly involved in anything nefarious, but being in the wrong neighborhood when the ops come through could have these results.

I do wish they would all stop shooting each other over silly neighborhood allegiance over a feud that likely began before they were even out of diapers.

Most will die at the hands of racist whites, surely.

Has this problem ever been solved, anywhere?

Agreed, but even from a capitalist/center-right perspective, incentivizing business investment in these areas would make a difference as well. NJ has special economic zones with reduced sales and business taxes and that’s taken a bite out of poverty there

We need an iron and brick wall to shield the bullets instead. And also it's odd how most prominently white neighborhoods don't have to face this. The poverty being in these poor neighborhoods and filled with black people. It's almost like we have a historical problem in this city that is being covered up by not speaking about it. Maybe the city should actually looked into this and do something more than "give thoughts and prayers". Man is dead already and we all know someone else is next. Considering these factors afflicting these neighborhoods - education, family planning, birth control, income stability, etc - it would be nice if the city looked into it.

What about Michigan? What about Maryland? Why don’t you cherry pick a little more with your question

How about having a father in the house? Nearly all of these kids that get involved in drugs, gangs, and violence don't have a father living with them.

Just like VT, NH, and Maine, which have 1/6-1/3 our state's gun homicide rate while having basically no gun laws amirite

> What about Michigan? What about Maryland?

They’re 2/5, I’m focusing on the majority here.

Why do you think 3 of the top 5 are in states where guns are readily available?

Rounding out the top 10 are 2 cities in Ohio, another in Missouri, and one In Tennessee. 7/10 cities with the highest murder rate are in states with easy access to guns.

Why do you think that is?

> Why don’t you cherry pick a little more with your question

Ironic from someone who, wrongly here, cherry picked Chicago as an example.

The post I was referring to was Chicago compared to London. That’s why Chicago was mentioned.

Have you ever been to New Orleans outside of the French quarter?

How about St.Louis or Baltimore?

All 3 have extreme poverty, extreme gang violence and democrat mayors

90 percent of all murders in Missouri are in St Louis. Now do you think they were commuted with legally owned firearms or not?

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> and democrat mayors

Are most gun laws set at a city or state level?

At Louisiana and Missouri red states or blue states?

> Now do you think they were commuted with legally owned firearms or not?

Now do you think a vast majority of those guns originate with a legal purchase at a gun store?