Submitted by roadtrip-ne t3_10ffnbw in boston
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TywinShitsGold t1_j4wu26r wrote
Take out the $5-6m in land, divide by 2.5. $3.5-4m in discretionary during a good year? If they’re valuing reasonably?
peteysweetusername t1_j4wur5c wrote
But that’s 3.5mm in profit, not revenue. Assuming a high profit margin of 20% that would mean annual revenue close to 18mm or like $50k per day, that’s everyday, including the off season.
Horknut1 t1_j4xami8 wrote
There's no way they're making that much in the off-season.
I don't understand how this price tag would ever be worth it.
peteysweetusername t1_j4xlzby wrote
Exactly. I know it’s a storied place with Anthony bourdain working there in all but they’re clearly looking for a stupid buyer
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jtet93 t1_j55lgql wrote
They are gonna knock it down and build condos with bottom floor retail probably. The land is worth a lot.
1998_2009_2016 t1_j4xjwi1 wrote
Nah, it’s gotta be revenue. $3.5m in profit per year is a price to earnings ratio of like 4. Reasonable pricing is closer to 20 generally.
peteysweetusername t1_j4xmckq wrote
There’s real estate and a business valuation involved. Do you think at 20x ebitda value is fair?
TywinShitsGold t1_j4xyxq3 wrote
Restaurants are ebidta plus owner X 2-3.
Zero chance they do 20%. Probably single digits.
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ton_nanek t1_j4zyjg8 wrote
It is absolutely unreasonable to state this restaurant has the chance to make 3.5 million dollars in profit in a year.
The number of independent restaurants making that much profit in a year in the US is less than 5. That is unheard of.
wobwobwob42 t1_j4xcgd3 wrote
Not enough to clean it properly according to my last visit. It's a dump.
Freaky713 t1_j4wru5h wrote
Why is this flagged as marijuana? Lol
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InfiniteBlink t1_j4xmush wrote
Cuz you would have to be high to pay that much
lorimar t1_j505fds wrote
Aside from the pot in the title, that price is certainly high
Firm_Love3598 t1_j4y2sbk wrote
They are closed in the off season. Real estate alone is worth $5-$6MM. Very few days in season when there isn’t a 30-40 minute wait for seating.
Last year when boat price for lobster was $4.50/lb a single 1 1/4 pound steamed lobster was near $50 at the restaurant. Approximately 1 pound of mussels ($2.50 cost) was selling for almost $20.
The business economics are quite different in Provincetown.
BaconTerminator t1_j4xr7w6 wrote
$14 million ??? Holy shit it’s p town not seaport
SpindriftRascal t1_j4y48uw wrote
That asking price is a fantasy.
scolfin t1_j4ye8k5 wrote
I has been some time since Boston had a kosher deli.
charlesfuckingmanson t1_j50c4tn wrote
For those trying to do the math, commercial real estate investment comes in two forms: cash flow and equity.
Almost all commercial spaces in Mass. are equity investments, many do not cash flow. In fact, the new owner may end up losing money every year if their exit strategy is to hold for a decade and sell.
The land and location will appreciate at a higher rate than standard cashflow operations could bring in.
Horknut1 t1_j4wpb9c wrote
How much does this place have to clear a year to make it worth $14MM?