gmcgath t1_j6cq457 wrote
Even though the killer cops were black in this case, the protesters are still pushing the claim that racism explains everything. It's true that black people get the short end from law enforcement, with higher arrest and killing rates, but the causes are more complex than "We're white and you're not so we can beat you up."
frenchtoaster t1_j6cr8b5 wrote
Cops mostly-correctly think they can kill people with impunity in general, and some of them are racist (yes, including black cops treating black civilians worse than white civilians)
[deleted] t1_j6jbw3k wrote
Black on black racism is possible. You can be black and hate yourself for being black so you take it out on others.
You ever see Attack on Titan? “I’m a good Eldian! I’m not like those OTHER Eldians!” is the logic.
All of our policies and laws are based on the racist foundations of our country so yeah it does all get traced back.
QuitProfessional5437 t1_j6d21o7 wrote
Black people are also responsible for 50% of violent crime in America. More white people are killed by cops than blacks.
What we need is a stronger justice system with more strict laws. So many people are out here committing crimes and all they get is a slap on the wrist. Enough is enough.
bitpushr t1_j6dyhwh wrote
> What we need is a stronger justice system with more strict laws. So many people are out here committing crimes and all they get is a slap on the wrist. Enough is enough.
I suggest you take a look at our incarceration rate per capita and then think about whether or not the answer is "the solution is to put more people in prison".
liberal_hack t1_j6e8l49 wrote
If you had really heavy enforcement of laws you’d probably decrease the crime rate, the question is whether that’s appropriate in a liberal democracy.
asaharyev t1_j6ebhpn wrote
That was the stated purpose of "broken windows policing," which played a big role in increasing our prison population to what it is today. Stricter enforcement does not lead to a reduction in crimes being committed, and can often have the opposite effect. This is because it reinforces structures of inequality and exacerbates symptoms of poverty.
What has reduced crime is building a stronger social safety net so those who find themselves in desperate situations can get support from the state instead of other illegal alternatives.
liberal_hack t1_j6f06ki wrote
I mean harsher sentencing too. If you arrest someone for a minor crime and destroy their life, and then shortly let them out yeah you're going to have more problems.
I'm just saying if you went really draconian and locked up long-term anyone that commits a serious crime you would probably have lower crime rates, at the cost of liberty
>What has reduced crime is building a stronger social safety net so those who find themselves in desperate situations can get support from the state instead of other illegal alternatives
This is true but it doesn't address the people that commit crime for reasons other than addressing their own survival needs, which is most crime.
asaharyev t1_j6f0zcn wrote
Harsher sentences do not reduce crime. This has been shown in multiple studies, and is easily searchable. Here is just one of many studies showing this.
Stricter policing does not reduce crime, and often makes it worse.
liberal_hack t1_j6f8szk wrote
What is the mechanism for locking up a criminal for life increasing crime rates?
A place like Singapore with really draconian sentencing and enforcement has pretty low crime rates.
asaharyev t1_j6fl1hy wrote
The US has an incarceration rate 3x that of Singapore. We're already more draconian than your example.
liberal_hack t1_j6fvwq5 wrote
We incarcerate people and then let them back out without reintegrating them well. Singapore just executes a lot of people. Singapore is definitely a more draconian legal system.
Treebeard2277 t1_j6d4cl2 wrote
Stricter laws are not associated with decreasing crime or murders.
QuitProfessional5437 t1_j6d4xph wrote
Yes it is. Look at china and Singapore.
TouchDownBurrito t1_j6d5dkf wrote
Look at all the southern “tough on crime” states, they all have the highest crime rates in the country.
This has been studied to death, stricter punishment does not lower crime rates.
QuitProfessional5437 t1_j6d5py7 wrote
Lol like where?
Look at Chicsgo, they have the most lenient punishment
TouchDownBurrito t1_j6d6gz4 wrote
> Lol like where?
Like I said, the south: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/crime-rate-by-state
> Look at Chicsgo,
Oh shit, Fox News brain rot has set in.
Why look at Chicago? Its not even in the top 40 when it comes to crime rate by city.
Why isn’t Alabama being “tough on crime” stopping all the crime in Mobile, which is at the top of that list?
>they have the most lenient punishment
What “lenient punishment”? Be specific.
Wtf_is_this1234 t1_j6d5uke wrote
I mean they have really draconian sentencing. China has no problem throwing people in concentration camps and Singapore still canes people.
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