Submitted by Tall_Ocelot_8749 t3_10mwhqd in boston

Just read this interesting op-ed in CommonWealth magazine that says Massachusetts needs free community college for all of its residents. It makes some good points - doing so will help address labor shortages, help more people access college, and will help Mass catch up to other states. If all these republican led states can afford it, why can't we?

I hope Governor Healey does something about this.

Thoughts?

https://commonwealthmagazine.org/opinion/not-all-free-tuition-community-college-plans-are-equal/

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Maxpowr9 t1_j65mhji wrote

Tuition should be free for MA residents.

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tandemtuna t1_j661x2v wrote

Tuition (currently about $5.5k/year before financial aid) is only a small part of the problem. The bigger issue is that you've got to pay rent and eat while you're going to school. Room and board and such for the year is more like $20 or 30k.

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il_biciclista t1_j6823mn wrote

Let's not let perfect be the enemy of good. Education costs and housing costs are both problems that need to be solved. If community College becomes free, that's a big step in the right direction.

Reducing the cost of housing is more complicated, more controversial, and will take longer.

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Tall_Ocelot_8749 OP t1_j68j8ia wrote

Absolutely agree. But if the state makes tuition free, then students can use the federal Pell Grant to cover more of their living expenses. Still inadequate. I think we need to have free tuition and really increase financial aid to cover student living expenses and basic needs - like housing, food, and transportation

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0palescent t1_j68od67 wrote

I support free access to education, but I no longer think academia is the way to go.

I did a BA at a state school and I loved it, it made me who I am, paying my loans wasn't the worst, but ten years later I'm making 30k.

I'm taking some classes at UMASS right now to upskill and they are trash compared to free programs I've attended in similar subjects. Course materials were last updated in 2010 and are full of spelling errors. Directions are missing in course activities. Professors are checked out. Why does this cost $1000+/class?

Plus an associates doesn't get you very far in a majority of majors.

I'd be way more excited about free programs that get people into trades and apprenticeships.

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Wtf_is_this1234 t1_j69hvod wrote

I'm not sure what the practical value of community college is. Sending people to school for a year or two to earn credits that may or may not transfer well to a 4 year (aka tuition charging school) seems like a pointless endeavor. And the associates itself- very few jobs require an associates, most that would require one just require the HS diploma so the associates is kind of a pointless degree.

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psychicsword t1_j6a2b3t wrote

They need to reform the curriculum at the same time. Community College should be rediciculously targeted at the best bang for the buck trades skills and professions that are needed for the state economy.

Go learn basket weaving on your own time but if you want to be a teacher, you want to be a nurse or medical aid, or any of the skilled trades then absolutely we should be making the foundation of those tracks as cheap as possible. We need those skills and as a tax payer we should absolutely be funding it.

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[deleted] t1_j6eogae wrote

Community colleges have credit transfer agreements with 4-years. If you know where you intend to transfer and into what program, you can look up exactly what you need to take and how those credits will transfer before you enroll. It's not the right choice for everyone but it's a great way for many people to get the first half of college for very cheap.

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