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mshelikoff t1_j6iz41j wrote

Reply to comment by willzyx01 in Maura Healey wants to solve the state’s housing crisis. Here’s step one. by _Hack_The_Planet_

In 2023, no rational person would have the idea that any developer should be permitted to build anything anywhere of any size at any price point. After local, national, and global inequality have increased for decades, no rational person would believe that local people must abandon local government control over their neighborhoods and surrender to the realization that multinational Real Estate Investment Trusts with anonymous foreign investors are the ones who should control the future of their community.

NIMBYs are selfish idiots. YIMBYs are dangerous idiots.

People with brain cells recognize that we live in a complex world where individual people will always want as much control over their lives as the systems in place will allow them to have. Some renters have opinions about shadows at 5:30 am. A fantasy-land where multi-millionaire NIMBY homeowners and multinational REITs are the only ones with power who participate in local government is a land where renters are one step away from being nothing but vermin to be controlled or exterminated.

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Flashy_Positive1657 t1_j6jfve2 wrote

What point are you trying to make here? Is this satire?

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mshelikoff t1_j6jw5fd wrote

I'll support or won't support a particular development based on its alignment with principles of intelligent urbanism or another rational urbanist school of thought. Just because the basic solution is to build more housing, that doesn't mean we have to increase inequality and decrease equitable access to opportunities to achieve that solution.

My view is that YIMBYs should be supported to the extent that they are housing justice advocates.

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dpm25 t1_j6jrqos wrote

Yimbys aren't talking about oil rigs and steel Mills. They are talking about housing.

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mshelikoff t1_j6k1jr2 wrote

I will likely agree with anyone who has obvious goals of housing justice and a rational, humane urbanism. A person with those goals might be for or against a particular housing development depending on the details and depending on the displacements of the people there now.

If you will permanently remove 5 working class long-term resident families with kids in the local public schools in order to create a tall building with 200 graduate students living in studios then I'll probably be against you. Call me a NIMBY. I won't care.

If you don't increase the rent of those 5 families much and find temporary housing for them while you build your tall building and welcome them back into your tall building when it's done and introduce them to their new neighbors then I'll probably be with you. Call me a YIMBY. I won't care.

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dpm25 t1_j6k2295 wrote

Yeah I prefer grad students sharing multi bedroom apts and homes, it's oh so much better for competing rents /s

The socialist wing of the left is so bat shit crazy on housing.

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mshelikoff t1_j6k2neu wrote

You can usually tell who is batshit crazy from their words alone. If person 1 compares A to B and person 2 pretends that person 1 was comparing A to C and then writes "/s", person 2 is batshit crazy.

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