jamseph t1_j2fc1ra wrote
Reply to comment by FoodGuy44 in Boston in 2022: Murders by spedmunki
The reason this is such a fucking shitty take, and it is a very fucking shitty take, is that those communities are impoverished beyond their control. You might as well ask poor people why they don't just buy a vacation home or a yacht. It's ignorant and almost purposefully avoids addressing the real problem.
Frunk2 t1_j2ff459 wrote
You realize there are tons of poor people, including in these neighborhoods, that don’t break any laws right? We’re talking about less than a hundred murderers in a city of 700k. Comparing it to why rich people buy yachts is frankly ridiculous. Rich people aren’t victimized when their neighbor buys a yacht
BandwagonReaganfan t1_j2ffx2s wrote
>We’re talking about less than a hundred murderers in a city of 8M.
8 Million??? You must be lost, this isn't New York. The number you are looking for is 650k.
Frunk2 t1_j2fgk2n wrote
Yeah corrected I did ma population from top of head not boston
Alternative_Nail1632 t1_j2foos7 wrote
There are a ton of very poor Central Americans in Boston and they almost never kill each other. Poverty is part of it but not the whole problem
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OldCoaly t1_j2ftw12 wrote
You took a bad take and made it so much worse. Seemed like you were about to make a point about the correlations between crime and poverty, something with nuance that you could use to then talk about how these communities aren’t being served well with the current way programs, resources, and transport options reach them or how crime may fill a role an individual could have addressed better with more assistance from the city, community, whatever. But then you just asked how anyone can expect lower income citizens to not kill people, like it’s something in poor peoples nature that can’t be overcome. They are people too.
jamseph t1_j2fxf0i wrote
Not what I meant, but I see how you could think that. Poor people are trapped in a neverending cycle of poverty. Asking them not to resort to extremes, like crime, is an unreasonable expectation when basic necessities can't reasonably be met through other means. My intention was to point out the ignorance associated with the question " why don't they just stop killing each other?"
Alex01854 t1_j2fq1j8 wrote
The fact that’s a certain lifestyle is glamorized amongst certain groups is more problematic than them growing up in poor neighborhoods.
FoodGuy44 t1_j2fcpeu wrote
Agree to disagree
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