Submitted by officepolicy t3_zsy4un in boston
I haven't brought it up to them yet but it just hits my ear so wrong. It's Cambridge with a hard "A" like "same"
Submitted by officepolicy t3_zsy4un in boston
I haven't brought it up to them yet but it just hits my ear so wrong. It's Cambridge with a hard "A" like "same"
When I moved to Cambridge from Florida, I was unsure how to pronounce it. My first guess was “cam-bridge”, but when I got here quickly switched to “came-bridge”
Once you heard other people saying "came" then I assume you switched. This person hears other people pronouncing it different yet hasn't changed, I'm baffled
Eww
No
I do. Then they moved to Arizona so problem fixed itself..?
Did you try to pronounce it like everyone else and found it hard to do?
Nah I kept pronouncing it came-bridge. If I quote them, it just feels wrong to say CAM-bridge but its also a running joke between my and my SO at this point.
Where are they from? What is their accent?
No accent, I wouldn't let it bother me if someone with an accent pronounced local words wrong
I wonder if there's a Cam-bridge where they are from? I always get Reading and Read-ing mixed up because it's pronounced one way where I grew up and another way here and I can never keep track of which is which anymore.
Oh I misread your comment, I thought you said you pronounce it that way and then moved to arizona lol, nm
Cam-bridge, Came-bridge, Cum-bridge…all are considered acceptable pronunciations
I take umbrage with your pronunciation of Cumbridge
It's actually Cumebridge.
Hahaha I'm imaging them having to move across the country because they can't stand my mis-pronunciation!
Yeah a work friend who moved here from New Y🤢rk
I have a friend from Lowell who says “Cam”bridge. Born and raised
Interesting, I’ve never heard them described as “soft/hard” vowel sounds, just short/long.
Anyway, it’s hard/long (nice).
Bizarre. Do they say War-chester too?
I find long and short confusing because you can say a soft vowel slowly or a hard vowel quickly
Sorry, you’re right, meant to pronounce it Cum-brage
Met a girl from another state. She pronounced Billerica like Bill-air-eh-cah. I laughed so hard. Worcester was Warchester.
No, but I knew someone that refused to say Tremont correctly in reference to the street. Drove me irrationally crazy. Same person that called Copley “Cope-ly”
What about Camberbatch?
It might be bookish? Cambridge's namesake in the U.K. got it's name from the river Cam that runs through it. I'm not sure, but I doubt the river is pronounced "Came"
Yes. It drove me nuts for so long. They moved away thankfully.
Well we live in Am air eh cah so it makes sense
Even in the UK they pronounce it as "Came-bridge", so if we're going by their example... but then again, do we Americans really want to?
The UK Cambridge is pronounced the same as Cambridge MA though. According to wikipedia the river is actually back-named after the town and it was originally called the Granta.
In regards to the UK university, I have never heard anyone say they were “Cah-mbridge educated”, so I think they say it the same way we do.
I think the “a” in jam is harsher (“harder”) sounding than the “a” in Cambridge, so I find that confusing.
Imagine pronouncing it AM ricka
Indians say cahmbridge
Lots of transplants tend to mispronounce local street names or town names.
In Roslindale there is an Albano Street. It is "al-BAY-no" but those not born there say "al-BAN-no." As I tell them, it is not named after a former wrestling star (Lou Albano).
Some years ago my neighbor was stopped by a lost motorist and asked for directions to "muh-TAP-un." No one seemed to know where that was. After a little thought process he told the driver that he can't get there, because it is pronounced "MAT-uh-PAN" (Mattapan).
Directions were issued to the poor lost soul.
Boston and vicinity has a decent mix of English and Wampanoag (Native American) names.
The thing that can be frosting is when said people refuse to accept correction by the Native Bostonians on pronunciation.
We will not speak of Worcester, Gloucester, or Scituate. :-)
Yeah I guess it’s all subjective whichever words you use, better to compare to other words
Lol, or Billerica like ‘murica, burica
We say Calm-bridge
That's wrong and they should be ashamed, but I just realized that I pronounce it Cam-berville instead of Came-berville. Is this wrong?
I believe you get your ass kicked saying something like that.
I know one family who does it. It's fucking weird.
Ok is it Trey-mont or Truh-mont? I’ve lived here a decade and still don’t know lol. I say the former.
You gently tell the person that they are mispronouncing it.
Did you grow up in Cincinnati where it’s pronounced “RED-ing”?! Because same 😂
West Coast, but it was also Red-ing.
Oh no. I don't know to pronounce it either :(
In Russian Cambridge is pronounced with “jam” as OP describes, so any Russian-speaking person who has learned English without exposure to the English/American pronunciation would say it that way.
No
It’s closer to Treh-mont but trey-mont is acceptable. Accent on the first syllable
I've usually heard hard/soft for consonants like G... Greg vs. Gym
My fiancee does, but whatever.
Whereas it should be pronounced bill-a-rickey, after the original place. ;)
He's busy playing Sherlock Holmes.
It's the river Cam, in Came-bridge.
Source, me, who is English and went to college there.
No, it's fine to change the pronunciation when you mess with completely separate syllables in English.
It's the River Cam, in Came-bridge, in the UK.
As an English transplant, I'm pleased that MA gets Worcester and Gloucester right. But I do wish MA had a Bicester ("Bister") and Towcester ("Toaster").
But as for RI, with its War-wick...
This shows up in the village of Grantchester ("Grant(a)-encampment") a bit upstream (south) from Cambridge.
Some maps still say "River Cam (or Granta)". A similar thing goes on in Oxford with the Isis (or Thames), upstream of the confluence with the Cherwell. Below Oxford, it's the Thames.
An Irish friend of mine had a friend visiting from Ireland, and they lost track of each other while out drinking one night. The next morning his friend showed up and told him he had ended up in “Quinky.”
A bit hypocritical to nitpick at someone's mispronunciation of Cambridge when you won't accept long/short and are defending your usage of hard/soft because you find it confusing.
MA (Reading & North Reading) are pronounced like “Redding”
Yes a few folks. They all were Harvard-affilated from other parts of the US. It was an intereting moment.
Some other unexpected pronunciations: Al-wife, Tray-munt, Leek-mere, and Putt-nam (like, old-school folks call Vietnam as "'nam")
Oh yeah absolutely.
Vowel length is a real thing.
Yes it drives me nuts. He’s lived here for 7 years now, in Somerville, and still calls it Cammbridge.
I’ve always called it trem-mont
Okay, truth time: I did this the first week I lived here. I am originally from a metro area that notoriously says “soft A’s”, which is my excuse. I came correct as soon as I realized “wait no one else says this the wrong way I am saying it”.
Legit though everything here is pronounced incorrectly. How anyone gets “Wuhsta” from “Worcester” I will never know. Ditto for so many others. Lemonster from Leominster? Come on.
It’s all just an elaborate gatekeeping mechanism to tell who has lived here long enough and who hasn’t.
I said it that way for a while before I was corrected. Now I pronounce it Cumbridge, like a normal person
It’s not that deep
Tray-mont
Best case to pronounce it as “cahmbridge” I’ve ever seen
Yeah, is it pronounced anything other than "RED-ing" anywhere? Other than when you talk about what you do with books of course.
In the TV show Fringe—which was set in Boston—they said "Bill-air-eh-cah".
Oof, that’s terrible. My cousin was a producer on that show. He knows better.
Coombridge
Yes, I would slap the name of my city out of their mouth for that.
Have you tried violence?
Yet would it be classy to pronounce it CAHHHmbridge all fancy like, as in I went to Hahvard in cahhhmbridge?
Yes. It's Cambridge and Somerville.
I went to college with a girl who insisted that it made sense to call it Pea-Body (“because you find a body in the woods, not a buhDEE in the woods”) and absolutely refused to change because the entire state is Massachusetts was wrong.
Gross. Bye.
What? I accept long and short vowels as a concept, I just find them confusing
You can say a short vowel slowly though right?
I absolve you of your sins, go in peace
I’m in the field of speech pathology so I’m just gonna jump in here, the a in “jam” is not 100% a short vowel (like in “hat”) or a long vowel (where the vowel says its name, like in “same”). It’s actually a nasalized vowel (influenced by an n or m after it, like “ran/man” as opposed to “rat/mat”.) So that might be why it’s a little hard to identify the sound in “jam” 🙃
Interesting. Getting a couple different responses here haha! Trem-mont vs Tray-mont…I guess I’ll never know :-)
That’s really interesting, makes sense that it’s not just a binary between long/short. Do you prefer using long/short or hard/soft? Or do you just compare to other words to disambiguate? Thanks so much for the expert opinion, häts off to you 😉
Haha i have to agree with other posters that its definitely typically long/short for vowels, and then hard/soft for consonants (hard g in gate vs soft g in giraffe, same goes for the letter c in cage vs. cent). There are a ton of technical terms/specifics for each sound that can be made/used in a language, but if you aren’t a speech pathologist or a linguist it really doesn’t matter too much! Rule of thumb for vowels though is if the vowel “says its name” in the word, it’s a long vowel.
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Ah gotcha, thanks! When I originally wrote the post I had just quickly googled “hard and soft vowels” and some results came up so I used that, didn’t realize it wasn’t the typical terms
Everyone here is probably talking about the same guy and no one has confronted him yet.
psst don't tell anyone, I've been going around say caaambridge for the past few years in preparation for this post
No, but I pronounce Bangor as "banger" and that really, really upsets Mainers.
Bangor? I hardly know her
I’m not from here so I always did. Soft A makes more sense without any context
Utah says “hur-ih-ken” for a town spelled Hurricane.
i’m convinced everyone says these cities wrong just for posterity’s sake. They are wrong, like how volvo has that color “swedish racing green” which is clearly blue. But that doesn’t mean it’s not how everyone says it. 🤷🏻♂️
I guess to avoid an existential crisis folks just can’t accept people can do whatever they want lol.
I knew some students from France who pronounced it this way.
No, but I have heard people call themselves “Canterbridgians.”
You don't pronounce "jam" like "same"? This is gonna change my life.
My doctor's secretary is an old lady with a Brahmin accent. I once asked her if she had any appointments available on a Friday and she responded "Ah, ya cunt, he's not in that day" and it took me a minute to realize she said "you can't" and didn't call me the C word lol
To me the most cursed place in Utah is Coeur d’Alene. I tried pronouncing it with what I thought was a pretty Anglicized pronunciation (kerr deh lehn). Nope. It’s fucking Core Duh Lane.
May God have mercy on us all
Bill ricka
It's really not but neither is this whole thread
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I can say both of those slowly. I honestly don’t see how saying those two vowels slowly shows which is long or short. Also a speech pathologist in the comments told me jam is not a short vowel (like hat, which I can say slowly just fine too.) Jam is a nasalize vowel influenced by an n or m after it
Coeur d’Alene is in Idaho not Utah
When I first moved here I said it with a soft a and got corrected. Been saying it with a hard a ever since. I say go ahead and correct them, might be the only way they will take notice
I work in Cambridge and everyone I work with pronounces it cam-bridge. Is that not correct?
they pronounce it cambridge like jam or lamb? It is much more widely pronounced cambridge like lame or same
No help here but maybe some faith? We have a Leicester (Les-Ter), not far from Worcester. :-)
I always roll that out as "War-ik."
Ya only complete loosers.. it’s Came & bridge bro
Low-ell, Low-ell, Low-ell, Lo- oh - weh -hel, Stuck in this traf-fic, On a bridge from hell.
I-ah left my house at noon, Class no longer on zoom, But when I graduate, I will still push a broom.
Traymont st is acceptable too. TREEmont st on the other hand…. Lol
Feeling like a fraud as someone who's lived in mass all my life calling it cam-bridge and cope-ly
i'm intrigued as to how your friend came (no pun intended) to the conclusion it is pronounced that way. Are they French or French Canadian, per chance?
Their last name is French but they have no accent whatsoever
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