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ChildOfHeist t1_izqjnwo wrote

This is a real victory. Places like MIT that have nonprofit status and don’t pay local property taxes have a duty to be reasonably open to the public (except dorms and the nuclear reactor and so forth).

Emergency covid restrictions shouldn’t become a permanent power grab by institutions to limit access to public spaces.

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corned_beef_balls t1_izrodi7 wrote

MIT is Cambridge’s largest tax payer, paying over 10% of the city’s taxes. They do pay local property tax, just not on all buildings.

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TeaWithMingus t1_izs3khs wrote

That makes me sad because I’m pretty sure Harvard owns like every other building in Cambridge

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sporkoroon t1_izs6wam wrote

And they got grandfathered in and do not pay property tax!

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My-Left-Plate t1_izsyv6b wrote

MIT pays about 1.5 million a year to Cambridge. Harvard pays about $5 million a year.

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My-Left-Plate t1_izsyu9p wrote

MIT pays about 1.5 million a year to Cambridge. Harvard pays about $5 million a year.

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TeaWithMingus t1_iztbk6m wrote

Yeah and they own like $500 million dollars worth of property so that checks out?

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My-Left-Plate t1_izteywi wrote

Yeah I mean they pay a lower rate than you and me do, but they are a non-profit so those are just… the rules.

Technically they don’t have to pay anything.

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TeaWithMingus t1_iztioej wrote

“Non Profit”

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My-Left-Plate t1_izuiyf0 wrote

I mean they are a non-profit. Whose fault is it that you don’t like the definition of ‘non-profit’?

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TeaWithMingus t1_izujm2c wrote

Boston estimates their property tax would be 10 times higher if they didn’t have non profit status it’s how they grow their endowment. https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2009/5/21/harvards-role-as-a-nonprofit-harvard/ they masquerade as a nonprofit but are and act like a business

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My-Left-Plate t1_izulb74 wrote

They are by definition and the law a non-profit. Again if you don’t like the law, run for office and change the law.

These universities act very differently from a public corporation and also very differently than a private for-profit corporation. The decision makers have very different motives which lead to very different outcomes.

These universities educate our brightest, but mainly they are huge economic wealth creators. If you made a country out of the companies that have been created and spun off of MIT it would be the 10th wealthiest country in the world. These are the companies that employ America. This public/private partnership is one of the bedrocks of America and it is something to be excited about, not complain about.

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TeaWithMingus t1_izuls6v wrote

I would argue they are part of the reason for our country having such a class divide and obvious disparity of wealth

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My-Left-Plate t1_izur7s8 wrote

Having companies that generate wealth is not the reason we have an increasing wealth gap. We had MIT and these companies being generated in 1955 too. But what we had then was a 95% top marginal tax rate.

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giritrobbins t1_izskbpc wrote

You mean all the property that MIT acquired and uses as commercial space. Yeah they should absolutely pay taxes on that. And they shouldn't get any special credit for following the law.

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corned_beef_balls t1_izslwa7 wrote

Then they also shouldn’t be lambasted for being a nonprofit, following the law.

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My-Left-Plate t1_izsz05f wrote

They are a non-profit following the rules.. You think tbings ‘should’ be different, run for office and change the rules.

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some1saveusnow t1_izr9xwm wrote

You know they’re looking at any and every way to basically act as a private entity while enjoying the non profit status

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My-Left-Plate t1_izsz8rz wrote

Non-profits are all ‘private entities’. That’s how it works. Non-profits are entirely able to make money and keep money. There is nothing anywhere that says or implies that non-profits can’t make as much money as they want.

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