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emilymm2 t1_j198utg wrote
The issue will be inbound flight delays/cancellations causing a domino effect
baru_monkey t1_j19gzlj wrote
Very helpful, thank you!
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BradMarchandsNose t1_j19lf0b wrote
Even then, they’re usually back on track within about 12 hours or so of the end of a storm unless it’s particularly devastating. Worst case I think you’d only see a couple hour delay
CloudNimbus t1_j19lktu wrote
my flight was tomorrow morning. they cancelled it and scheduled it for 7PM tomorrow. but i still feel like we can't leave then either 🥴
TheLost_Chef t1_j19o0y4 wrote
Imagine if this was all snow.
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BlueNoYellowAhhhhhhh t1_j19otjx wrote
Thank goodness I was only supposed to fly out to Chicago tomorrow morning… now moved to Saturday morning…. Ugh.. reminds me of Planes,Trains & Automobiles, crossing my fingers.
idunno119 t1_j19pbmy wrote
Oh yeah, woops I misread the graphic.
brownstonebk t1_j19qota wrote
This is very helpful. I’m driving up to MA from NYC and trying to figure out the best tome to leave. From this graphic seems like best time (to avoid the worst of it) is this evening or tomorrow am. Was planning on driving overnight but that ain’t gonna happen.
Crmlk09 t1_j19rdtj wrote
I want snow ❄️
frausting t1_j19svh2 wrote
I’d say either leave in the next hour or two, or go tomorrow evening. Tomorrow AM will still be awful
ImNotAtAllCreative81 t1_j19uj80 wrote
I would rather not.
TheIsletOfLangerhans t1_j19vlxv wrote
Sorry, this doesn't work for me (on PTO). Please push it back to sometime next week.
Thanks
solar_powered_wind t1_j19wexz wrote
Honest Q, since I'm still extremely new to driving in the winter up here.
I own a 2000 Camry with no winter tires. I routinely do not drive during active snowstorms or if there's any chance of ice on the roads.
How icy will the roads be from Boston to Jackson, NH on Saturday Christmas Eve? My only family lives there and it's always quite a drive. It's much easier to do in the summer since the road conditions are way better but not too sure what happens during storms like this.
Will I be fine if I take only major roads? I suppose my concern is that there will be like 30 mins of backroads to take to get to their house.
erikarew t1_j19xh5t wrote
Just me over here getting out of work at 11pm tonight wondering if I'll be simply rained on vs blown into traffic as I try to walk home from the T...
DMala t1_j19y0gr wrote
Where’s your other hand?
marmosetohmarmoset t1_j19yxlc wrote
Big highways will probably not be too bad as they tend to salt the hell out of them (at least in MA- not sure about NH). General increased traffic for holiday travel should also help keep roads not too icy. Avoid using cruise control, though.
I have driven many an icy road in my '91 camery with no antilock breaks (it did have all-weather tires, however...but not special snow ones). On the back roads take things slow, especially turns. Look for dark patches on the road- don't assume anything is just wet. Black ice looks a lot like water. if you get stuck on a particularly slick bit of hill or something, see if you can maneuver onto some grass for traction (if it looks safe to do so). Buy some kitty litter and keep it in your trunk in case you get really stuck. Put it under your tires to increase traction. If you skid don't panic, don't slam the breaks and don't make any sudden movements. Gently steer in the direction you want to go.
Take it easy and you'll be fine!
marmosetohmarmoset t1_j19z4r1 wrote
Any more details on when that extreme temp drop is going to be? Does Friday night mean like 11pm, or like... 6pm?
creatron t1_j1a0nsj wrote
I have a friend who was supposed to fly friday night but switched their flight to tonight since the storm was originally forecast for Friday into Saturday. Oh boy they're in for some fun
Yak_Rodeo t1_j1a17k1 wrote
^ this comment brought to you by people who dont have to shovel
Yak_Rodeo t1_j1a1atl wrote
being on pto is the best during storms. get a nice blanket and book or a good show and chill
Yak_Rodeo t1_j1a1iwx wrote
huh? that was still probably the smart move
creatron t1_j1a1qq1 wrote
Am I being dumb or is the graphic not saying that tonight/overnight is supposed to be the worst of it?
Yak_Rodeo t1_j1a2h8x wrote
theres currently a huge storm making its way across the country that doesnt just impact here, they are canceling flights by the hundreds in the midwest and the south, all of those people need to be rebooked which results in a cascading effect. if you can get out asap, even in less than ideal conditions, its far better than waiting with everyone else
soibithim t1_j1a2m0j wrote
Depends where you're flying. Massive delays and cancellations in the rest of the country too.
creatron t1_j1a2xc2 wrote
Ohhh I see what you mean. Yeah that makes a lot more sense now
soibithim t1_j1a35ml wrote
Rain seems to slow tomorrow morning but will still be very windy, then you'll be driving into the snow and freezing temps. Maybe leave now.
nealski77 t1_j1a3bvv wrote
Or travel.
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BradMarchandsNose t1_j1a3tyk wrote
The storm is moving in from the west and headed out to sea. Once it passes Boston, the rest of the country will have already cleared up. Inbound delays will clear up relatively quickly and there shouldn’t be much of an issue getting out of Boston on Saturday morning. The timing of the storm helps, the worst of it will come tonight when they’re aren’t as many flights in and out of Logan. Friday will be the catch-up day and Saturday should be relatively fine. I would expect some delays, but cancellations or being stuck in the airport for 8 hours, probably not.
BlueNoYellowAhhhhhhh t1_j1a3zyj wrote
Between two pillows…
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ahsanbarbarian t1_j1a6hkc wrote
I need snow, my seasonal depression exists only when there’s no snow
Gr0wlerz t1_j1a7z9g wrote
Hey nature can u do this next week, I gotta open tommorow thankksss
Master_Dogs t1_j1a89c1 wrote
> Big highways will probably not be too bad as they tend to salt the hell out of them (at least in MA- not sure about NH). General increased traffic for holiday travel should also help keep roads not too icy. Avoid using cruise control, though.
NH spends like half of its budget on roads. It doesn't have any real regional transportation outside of private bus services like Grayhound/Boston Express and some intercity buses in Nashua/Manchester/Concord. I guess there's the one Amtrak route that passes through to Maine/Boston but that's about it.
Needless to say I'm always shocked by how badly Mass plows/salts and how excellent the roads are in NH. Ski trips are a breeze even in snow until you cross into MA and suddenly all the plows disappear and there's barely any sand/salt applied to exit ramps. I used to have a Corolla when I lived up there and before I got snow tires I had very few issues even going to places like Jackson for Wildcat Mtn.
Good recommendations as well. The only other things I'd suggest to carry is a small portable shovel, an ice scraper/snow brush combo, and some traction tire mats if you can find them. Something like this can really help you get out of a bind. Won't help with ditches though, but can help free you from say a driveway or neighborhood street which isn't plowed well. Kitty litter or sand can help too, but these things can help get you off a patch of ice or snow and then you can just grab them after you're onto a better plowed section.
Z0idberg_MD t1_j1aahe5 wrote
I don’t know maybe I’m just being dismissive, but a “it’s going to be warm and rain” storm isn’t that worrying.
DooceBigalo t1_j1abjxy wrote
60+ mph winds are to me
Z0idberg_MD t1_j1ac2qs wrote
They would need to be sustained as opposed to gusts. We’ll see, but imo this is a “we have some trees down” kind of storm. So maybe some power losses. But it’s not going to be that cold, so shouldn’t be that much of a problem.
ndiorio13 OP t1_j1ae9wm wrote
It is going to drop 40 degrees overnight tomorrow and wind chills will be in the negatives. I would say it’s going to be cold
Otterfan t1_j1aen4q wrote
Most of the dropping temperatures are actually going to happen Friday afternoon and early evening, but because it's starting so warm it won't be really cold until later at night.
It's going to be ~56° at noon Friday, ~40° at 6pm, ~20° at midnight, and ~15° at 6am.
TheGlassBetweenUs t1_j1aerw2 wrote
it should have been :(
Z0idberg_MD t1_j1aetxm wrote
After the storm passes, yes. It will be like 40-60 when the storm is actually here. of course the rain will freeze after, but it's not even close to being a true winter storm.
smmalis37 t1_j1aewfs wrote
God I wish.
marmosetohmarmoset t1_j1af06x wrote
Hmm ok. So still above freezing for rush hour.
TheGlassBetweenUs t1_j1af3sf wrote
confusing since a majority of the storm is happening tonight and in the morning
CoffeeContingencies t1_j1af8p3 wrote
Exactly. Which is why I’m guessing they did this to soften the blow when they end up cancelling instead.
TheGlassBetweenUs t1_j1af9no wrote
imo it's only worrying to me because it's winter. climate change is ass
AegonIXth t1_j1afd6n wrote
Aw shit, I didn’t leave my composting worms in a safe spot :/
allexesteven t1_j1ahlr8 wrote
welp, im taking bus to nyc tomorrow morning. how bad would it be?
JoshGordon10 t1_j1aidlv wrote
Last couple winters I was dating a girl with a cabin in the White Mountains. I have a similar car, a 2010 Corolla, and put snow tires on in the winter. I grew up in southern NH so I have decent winter driving experience.
90% of the drives up and back were fine, but there were 2-3 nights I remember super clearly, where those northern highways were completely black-iced over, and going down the hills even at ~30mph was extremely dangerous. I seriously lost 100% traction and almost spun into a guard rail a few times coming out of the single-lane notch by Cannon/Lincoln, NH on route 93. Luckily I was taking it super cautiously and caught spins before they got nasty.
This storm looks like it could make one of those nights. Lots of rain and wet snow, with temps plunging below freezing once the sun sets. Be extremely careful, and slow down a LOT before going down a hill so you can test your breaks a bit. Watch for black ice and take hints from the other drivers in cars like you. Don't necessarily trust that all the roads in the Whites will be well-salted or well maintained. And if the conditions are bad enough, head back to where you came from and adjust your trip by a day or two on either end. If you can, drive during the day too. Good luck!
mrkro3434 t1_j1ajnv0 wrote
I'll always prefer snow to heavy cold rain (Speaking as someone who had to shovel for years).
Bundle up, pop in some ear buds, listen to a podcast, and get some exercise in.
Busting out an umbrella (that the wind will probably break anyways) in 35º heavy rain while you're waiting outside for 30+ minutes for delayed busses is way worse than having to shovel some snow.
Looking at you 501 outbound during rush hour.
Real-Original-3945 t1_j1aknml wrote
Or commute
fadetoblack237 t1_j1akqji wrote
I would rather snow then rain that then freezes. At least snow has some traction.
solar_powered_wind t1_j1alakb wrote
That's good to know, thank you.
I do plan on driving Saturday mid morning, hopefully I arrive before nightfall.
One thing I do remember are a few harsh turns leading to their house. I'll be sure to take it slow.
solar_powered_wind t1_j1ald5d wrote
Thanks for the advice! I plan on driving around 11am and hope to make it before nightfall.
GigiGretel t1_j1ambqs wrote
I think you can, I heard the rain will have stopped by then, and the trucks will be out icing before the freeze hits.
marmosetohmarmoset t1_j1amejz wrote
Yeah if it's a harsh turn take it comically slow. Don't feel silly about it- worth it to stay safe!
Bald_Sasquach t1_j1ao109 wrote
bradshaw1992 t1_j1artf1 wrote
Those aren't pillows!
seanboarder t1_j1ato2e wrote
I don’t know anything about composting but will they be okay or are they going to drown? :(
McFlyParadox t1_j1awm51 wrote
Yeah, but counter point: you don't have to shovel rain.
nccobark t1_j1ayjli wrote
Any idea what are the chances my 10:30 arrival flight gets cancelled?
DoctorPepster t1_j1az6nv wrote
I know :( I just got an email from Waterville Valley saying they're expecting 40F and rain tomorrow along with the winds. Goodbye snow.
goose_juggler t1_j1b00v8 wrote
The concern is the flash freezing that will happen later in the day. The morning will be downpours and windy but 50 degrees.
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Z0idberg_MD t1_j1bacsw wrote
Htf am I being downvoted? I’m looking at my forecast right now and the temperature is literally going to rise overnight and hit a high of 55° tomorrow when the majority of the storm will have passed.
Oh no tomorrow night after the storm has ended it will get cold.
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goose_juggler t1_j1bc97r wrote
Ever since that storm when a school bus got stuck and kids had to hang out in a convenience store for hours, schools have been much more willing to cancel or have half days for safety’s sake. The problem with a swing in temps like that is that it is forecast for a specific time, but if it’s off, it could be major trouble.
Samson__ t1_j1bg0n7 wrote
Yea? I’m coming into Logan Saturday morning. Sure as hell hope I don’t get screwed
chubby464 t1_j1bhtlm wrote
This^ I don’t mind shoveling. It’s a workout.
devAcc123 t1_j1bioqh wrote
If you absolutely need to get to Chicago (im assuming holiday stuff?) you could probably also fly into a half dozen other airports and grab the Amtrak to Chicago. Obviously less than ideal but just popped into my mind as a last resort. Heres an amtrak map centered on chicago.
Bunzilla t1_j1bjbwg wrote
I doubt you have a very long driveway then! I always start off feeling that way and thinking it’s rather nice. Then the loathing kicks in when I get about halfway done.
CoffeeContingencies t1_j1bmdns wrote
Or just find a local Polka band to hitch a ride with. I suggest looking in the Andrew Square area
postal-history t1_j1bn7d2 wrote
Lower today than if you changed to xmas eve
capybroa t1_j1bsiw5 wrote
Bread and milk shortages lasting into January
cjspoe t1_j1bw7ts wrote
rush hour on a Saturday?
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snoogins355 t1_j1bxgxj wrote
Just wait a few weeks. Getting 2015 vibes…
marmosetohmarmoset t1_j1byffm wrote
dabesdiabetic t1_j1c5vie wrote
Tomorrow PM the temp will have dropped and the rain will be frozen. Much more drive in wind than frozen ice.
chubby464 t1_j1c77od wrote
Nope driveway is very long. I’ve found that using a rowing motion instead of lifting it has helped lots with easing back and waste pain. Altho i do wish there was a robot that also snow blows for you.
AegonIXth t1_j1c7amj wrote
They might drown, or freeze :(
Btech800 t1_j1c85k2 wrote
I remember the blizzard of '78. Good times.
AcademicStranger5268 t1_j1chg63 wrote
cold shower's bout to hit different on saturday.
jenellebell t1_j1czms8 wrote
NBC 10 weather just showed freezing temps starting at 4pm.
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hoopbag33 t1_j1dbe0y wrote
By Saturday they'll be mostly fine but I wouldn't go faster than needed just in case.
Doctrina_Stabilitas t1_j1ddwka wrote
Just look at Canada google “Toronto Pearson”
Snafu55 t1_j1dhu5v wrote
I disagree, especially with the snow storm a couple weeks ago. We were coming back from New Jersey for a family trip (and had to pick up our cars from my partners grandparents in nh). Going through CT was miserable. But as soon as we entered back in MA they were treating the hell out of the mass pike and 495. On most of 495 north we were stuck behind a snowplow in all three lanes. As soon as we crossed the border onto 95 in seabrook though, the roads became untreated and icy. It was concerning. This is not the only time we’ve done this in a snowstorm. I’ve had worse experiences on NH highways in the snow than Ma. Granted our people drive more like assholes in the snow.
Puzzleheaded-Pie-382 t1_j1dmzun wrote
anyone think it’ll be safe to drive to CT by Saturday mid-morning?
DooceBigalo t1_j1eb0it wrote
FYI, half my town and surrounding towns have a ton of roads closures and police block offs because of how wild the ocean was and still is.
Z0idberg_MD t1_j1ecin6 wrote
I think coastal communities are a special case. There were times we didn’t even really have a storm when I was living in Plymouth and we would have flooding in road closures.
sweatpantswarrior t1_j198efc wrote
Welp, I'm only moderately worried about flying out on Saturday morning now.